Comments on: More on the NKorean War Plan Hack

By: W J

W J — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:30:55 +0000

I am not trying to be provocative but I must be honest, from what I can see in the pictures the “new” Army Camo looks like a well used painters throw rag. It seems that the Army and the Air Force are like woman in that they must have a new dress for every occasion.

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:24:16 +0000

.SEAN.…Part of my post was lost in transmission.…..I said, “In V.N. Charlie would ambush a unit and take their equipment. They would then use their captured M-16s in a fire fight, especially during a night probe of a firebase; we would hear the sound of M-16s and think they were friendlies until it was too late. Fancy toys are only good if just one side has them and there is a constant supply of batteries and it doesn’t rain or get too cold.’ Finally, One Willy Peter round will kick hell out of your night vision toys and maybe blind someone useing it!!!!”

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:16:01 +0000

SEAN: Gee thanks for setting me sraight, Sean. If you read what I wrote, you should notice that my comment is predicated on "Deceiving the Human Eye", and not which toys your enemy has to use. Your statement about Ebay tells me everything I need to know about your combat experience. You read too many books by "other" "experts" and playing war games on your X-Box does not make you a veteran. Anyone who has ever been in the "shiat" will tell you that the most obvious way to gain new equipment is to take it from some dead G.I.s!!! Not frukin Ebay! When I was in V.N., charlie wore black and did pretty well with it. Every snoop and poop outfit in the world wears black camo at night. In V.N. the VC would ambush a unit and take all of their gear

By: Valcan

Valcan — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:19:05 +0000

Great the laptops being stolen and now this. Now yall know why we didnt want the F22 to be sold overseas as is.

Heck our enemies dont have to steal anything from us. We give it to our allies who they then steal it from. Depressing

By: DavidB

DavidB — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:38:02 +0000

Our DOD banned USB devices exactly because of a similar breach, yet we don’t insist our closest allies take similar precautions. Sad isn’t it.

By: TDS4S

TDS4S — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:23:12 +0000

This is at least the 2nd time the OPLAN was compromised. In 1999, some puke in Seoul left it sitting in a subway on a disk — DPRK agents following him picked it up. DPRK used to bomb us with propaganda leaflets showing us that they knew about 5027–98 (the current version when I was there)..

PrivateCitizen: I was a Scout PL in the ROK and part of the OPLAN. While the plan for the 2nd 24 hours might be notional, the planned unit locations for the 1st 24 hours are decidedly not notional. Compromise of the OPLAN is a big deal because it provides target locations for their RAGs and DAGs. Of course, with our reduced presence in ROK (and presumably reduced role in any war, specifically counter-battery role), maybe compromise won’t matter that much after all. They already know where the cities and airfields are… it’s the MLRS, ATACMS, and other batteries whose locations they need. If those units aren’t playing anymore (and I have no idea whether they are or not) then the OPLAN doesn’t do them as much good.

Still, losing the OPLAN at least twice in 10 years is amazingly bad OpSec.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:14:10 +0000

That is a very very interesting point. I think a position paper on this might be in order!

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:26:49 +0000

Dave are you talking about U.S. or South Korean DoD?

By: Ptsfp

Ptsfp — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:13:47 +0000

On people acting recklessly or with alternative motives. Most of security issues come from inside, not outside the net. With the recent Fort Hood shootings in mind, what if Hasan worked in DOD IT? What if had access to access to secure documents or sensitive data and decided to hand that info over to insurgents instead of going on a shooting spree?

By: chrisram

chrisram — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:24:56 +0000

I think this story illustrates one of the biggest challenges facing cyber security efforts. You can design and implement the best security regimen in the world but if people act recklessly they put the information and systems being used at risk.