Military.com has a story coming out this afternoon on the whole Trijicon bible verse controversy. Since I’m at SHOT, I figured I’d start the company’s day off right by popping by their booth first thing to ask why in God’s green earth they put bible verses on their ACOG weapons sites fielded to US military forces.
I tried to speak with Tom Munson, the director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, and he refused to comment, referring me instead to a statement they were going to forward me on the issue.
The statement reads in part:
Our effort is simple and straightforward: to help our servicemen and women win the war on terror and come home safe to their families. As part of our faith and our belief in service to our country, Trijicon has put scripture references on our products for more than two decades. As long as we have men and women in danger, we will continue to do everything we can to provide them with both state-of-the-art technology and the never-ending support and prayers of a grateful nation.
So, they’re taking an unapologetic stance and are not saying whether they’ll stop putting bible verses on weapon sights used to kill Muslims. Sweet.
I realize the above photo is a little hard to read, but after the product spec it reads “JN 8:13 12″ – “When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
Bang! Take that Jihadist!
– Christian
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I hate it when they pull a no comment … especially when you're standing right there! So lame!
WHO CARES, just something else to whine about….How about spending the time to help create jobs and lower the cost of living, eleminating hunger in the GOOD OL' U.S. and not third world countries………
What I don't wuite get why people think that words of their Prophet which Christ is, would be found somehow offensive to the followers of Islam. Or moreover how getting shot dead is any more offensive due to the sight being used.
This is all quite idiotic.
Amen. I say “great job” to this company for standing up for their religion and for caring about our soldiers enough to involve Christ in their defense. In my opinion, we need more companies like this in our ‘christian founded’ country.
what about EX20:13?
Before you start quoting scripture you need to know the meaning. I will help you,
Murder:the crime of UNLAWFULLY KILLING a person especially with malice aforethought or the intentional and unlawful taking of another personʼs life. And that bis not what we are doing over there. I hope you are not in the military.
In the good ole' days, we sent our troops off to fight for God and country. If any of that has changed, then what are we fighting for? Our troops are fighting for America, while so many in our nations capitol are fighting against it. Our enemy is fighting a jihad, so let's bring it to them with the finest optics we have, and with God on our side. God likes winners.
I assume God loved the other side on 9/11, then? Is critical thought an alien concept to you, or do you just have an apple pie and a flag stuffed inside your skull?
God loves all. Some just choose not to accept it. Just because He loves the other side of 9/11 doesn’t mean they won’t see His wrath. His wrath will be much more devastating to them than any war with us.
Thanks, yet another person telling me what God wants. When the Muslims speak about what the very same God wants, you seem to devalue their opinion out of hand. Can you sense now why some people don't really trust the hand of the religiously guided folks any where near our rule of law? It can't possibly be clearer.
Our troops are fighting for their country. Not for ANYONE'S god. Not yours, mine or the enemy's…
I will assume all the complainers:
1. Do not Buy or receive gifts at Christmas
2. Boycott all stores and establishments with Christmas decorations
3. Work on religiuous holidays in protest
4. NEVER use phrases such as "Thank God" or "Go to hell" (implies acceptance af a supreme being and his demon enemy)
5. By the way, Jesus is a HISTORICALLY documented person that had an immense ionfluence on humanity.
6. I could go on and on but I will not.
Keep trying to crush Christianity…you WILL be adequately rewarded on judgment day. Think about it…if WE (Christians) are wrong what has being a christian REALLY cost us….but if YOU are wrong…ouch!
I'm all worried about your "judgement day!!!" In the US Christmas is largely a secular holiday based on pagan traditions (christmas tree, holly, etc). Jesus' birthday is not even on Christmas. I have no desire to crush Christianity or any other religion. Try to get this through your fundamentalist noggin: Practice your religion all you want. Just keep it OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT as required by LAW. Simple, yes?
What a ****storm over something as insignificant as a serial number. I don't necessarily like it, but it's not as if actual verses or religious symbols are inscribed… just a reference to a passage.
Wow yall are going way over board. They didnt mean anything by it than a litte luck charm or some encuragment.
All it says is that god is always with you no matter how hard life gets…….
OMFG!!!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!!! Obviously they are advocating genecide.
Seriously i want one person here to tell me how that verse can be considered evil?
God find something better to do with your life than wine and complain about what others believe when it has no bearing on your life.
Get a life.
Who says it's evil? If you can read, most are saying it's not consonant with our Constitutional values (they're bought with govt money, yet proselytize for one particular religion) and second, it damages our ability to win the moral war (these conflicts are fought in the media and in the hearts and minds of moderate Moslems–whose support is crucial to victory). Have you ever even heard of a fourth generation conflict?
Ok, so can you relate more on the ‘moral war.’ The reason terrorists are doing what they are doing is because of their religion. When a terrorist blows themself up they are supposedly going to see their ‘god and many virgins.’ How can you say this is not a war of religion?! They hate us because we are a christian country and we do not believe in their god. Wake up people! God, through his son Jesus Christ, is our main source of defense in this war!
Really? I heard Osama bin Laden himself say he was prosecuting the war as a way to play David to the geopolitical Goliath who was propping up dictators, backing coups, and generally dicking around with the fates of several middle eastern nations. As for explaining the moral dimension of war: Are you serious? Tell me, do you identify more with David, or Goliath? Does killing 700 civilians to kill 50 terrorists sound like a moral victory to you, or a clusterf*** of epic proportions with no long tern chance of changing hearts and minds?
I guess you really don't know that Muslims, Jews, and Christians all worship the same God? They are called Abrahamic faiths…this is something you possibly could have learned in the 8th grade, had you listened.
This what you folks don't get. It's not "evil." It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL. i.e. against the law. And it's a very important one not to be trifled with. More than anything else, two things separate us from the Islamofascists: 1) Strict separation of church and government and 2) The Rule of Law…
Yes there are far more things than that starting with culture. You can have laws out your a$$ but if your culture sucks your country will rot.
Yes i understand its against the law and i believe they shouldnt have done it. What i hate are these tards who use this and anywhere else they can wiggle there didgits to preach to me about how there smarter than me and anyone who doesnt agree with them because they dont believe in god.
I dont even go to church im just tired of being insulted by people who verbaly spew fecies out there mouths to prove how arrogant they are.
Was it wrong yes, do people need to stop freaking out yes.
I have a comment on the so-called ‘seperation of church and government.’ Do people not realize that was just something written in a letter by one of our past presidents? The whole ‘strict seperation of church and state’ thing has been taken way out of context. The ‘freedom of religion’ part of our contitution was put in because of Christianity. Colonists left England to FREELY practice Christianity. This is what our country was founded on! The problem is christians are not standing up for their religion as much as other religions. If more christians would have stood up in the past we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now.
That and the value of human life, the empowerment of women, the ridiculous lengths we go to not hurt civilians and the use of our left hands for something other than wiping our ass
who gives a damn? im sick of people whining about religion and law and blah blah blah!!!!!! WE HAVE PEOPLE FIGHTING AND DIEING FOR US AT LEAST YOU SHOULD GIVE THEM YOUR UNDYING SUPPORT INSTEAD OF MINDLESS BICKERING OVER TECHNICALITIES!!!!!!! WE HONESTLY HAVE BIGGER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH THAN A COUPLE VERSE REFERENCES!!!!!!!!!! GROW UP AND ACT LIKE ADULTS!!! AND IF THIS OFFENDS ANYONE I HOPE SOMEONE FINDS YOU HANGIN IN A CLOSET SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF THE GUILT YOU SHOULD FEEL FOR CARING MORE ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT THAN YOUR OWN PEOPLE FIGHTING AND DIEING WILLINGLY JUST TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN LIKE A BUNCH OF IGNORANT CHILDREN!!!! HAVE FUN TRYING TO SLEEP AT NIGHT YOU IGNORANT FOOLS!!!!
You need to reread the Constitution. This has nothing to do with it.
It is a good thing to put scriptures on the scopes for the American Soldiers to see if the complainers want to complain then let them go to a country wher they can live with the Devil in this country we want the help of the winning soldiers, the ones that has God and Jesus on their side. and if Atheists and Agnostics, and Muslims don’t like it let them go and live with the Muslims and the Devil. “Winston Gregg”
Thank you for propping up the stupid arguments by the people you just insulted.
Your a christain? Well as a man who having been raised church of christ let me tell you something.
Those people you hate? God wants you to save them instead you push them away and show your greatness, piety and ignorance.
We should be fishermen of men i remember that. YOU are just as bad as they. We are all the children of god no matter where we were raised or how horrible our sins.
Remember that.
How about you leave instead? Go set up your "Christian Nation" and get the hell out of America. You don't have a claim to this country any more than I do.
The reason that Christianity is the best friend of government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart." "I am a Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ." – Thomas Jefferson
He who shall introduce into the public affairs the principles of a primitive Christianity, will change the face of the world. – Benjamin Franklin
"The general principles on which the Fathers achieved independence, were . . . the general principles of Christianity." – John Adams
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." – Patrick Henry
Sorry Rob, but your liberal washed ideals don't match up with the truth…
Did you know that many of the SS who fed the gas chambers at Aushwitz also claimed that "they had God and Jesus on their side". If justifying killing muslims because you have "GOD" on YOUR side means you can do that with a clear concience, then you and your god can FUK off.
Wow, liberals keep getting dumber… The Nazis were Pagan and Occultic. Umm, also check your understanding of Christianity, Jesus was a Jew, and Jehovah is a Jewish God, any belief that killing jews is a good thing is definately not Christianity.
Anyways, Liberals support abortion which kills 2000 babies a day and has killed 10 time more US babies than jews that died in the Holocaust.
God bless Trijicon – Having our own hardware turned against us when captured by an enemy has always been a problem. Trijicon has found a way to prevent this now that it is widely known and most of the uneducated terrorists won't even be able to read the printing since it's not in Arabic script and therefore won't trust any of the optical sighting accessories that we use.
I like what a spokesman from CENTCOM had to say, "This situation is not unlike the situation with U.S. currency. Are we going to stop using money because the bills have 'In God We Trust' on them?"
Yeah, take your US currency out of the Muslim coountries you illegally invaded, like Iraq and Afghanistan. I am sure they had their own currency before you gate crashed their soverign nations, or was that not obvious to you and your mates at CENTCOM who profit from making weapons to kill Muslims.
I'm an atheist, but the verse doesn't bother me. Trijicon has been engraving Biblical verses on their sights prior to the initial procurement by the US government. It would seem to me that if we're going to use off the shelf technology then we shouldn't gripe about what's on it years later.
You Know So What If That Scope Has Bible Verses On It!!!! What Is Next Take All The Military Chaplens Out Of The Military, When They Pray For Our Men And Women To Come Back Safey From Battle OR Cant SAY FOR GOD AND COUNTRY No Offence And I Read My Bible Every Night But You Holy Rollers Must And Should Get A LIFE!!! Oh By The Way If You Would Of Read This Story Right Trijicon Was Going To Take The Verses Off Make There Scopes For Free For The Military NO QUESTIONS ASKED But Because Of 1 Person They Said NOOOO
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