Comments on: F-35 Delayed Again http://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:28:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: blackbullhttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194579 blackbull Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:20:21 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194579 Here it comes again, same song 43rd verse could get better but its gonna get worse. What a freaking joke to leave combat aircraft development to politicians. Remember Robert MacNamara and his gang of socialist politicians and the universal airplane and infanrty rifle and etc, etc. ALL were failures, just like the ones the politicos are daydreaming about today. Aircraft are specialized in their mission requirements. Thats the way it is !! F15's F16's, Hornets, A10's are still probably the best mix of aircraft we have had in decades. Maybe a updated version of the Bearcat or the Skyraider or Mustang would solve the ground support mission which is a lot of loiter and weapons mix. Sometimes KISS is the best way to solve a problem without political poop. Here it comes again, same song 43rd verse could get better but its gonna get worse. What a freaking joke to leave combat aircraft development to politicians.
Remember Robert MacNamara and his gang of socialist politicians and the universal airplane and infanrty rifle and etc, etc. ALL were failures, just like the ones the politicos are daydreaming about today.
Aircraft are specialized in their mission requirements.
Thats the way it is !! F15’s F16’s, Hornets, A10’s are still probably the best mix of aircraft we have had in decades.
Maybe a updated version of the Bearcat or the Skyraider or Mustang would solve the ground support mission which is a lot of loiter and weapons mix.
Sometimes KISS is the best way to solve a problem without political poop.

]]> By: MCQknighthttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194575 MCQknight Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:12:53 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194575 I love how the DoD started letting all of these F-35 problems come to light AFTER they convinced Congress to cancel the F-22. I love how the DoD started letting all of these F-35 problems come to light AFTER they convinced Congress to cancel the F-22.

]]> By: MCQknighthttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194574 MCQknight Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:08:54 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194574 Not true, it has internal bomb bays for JDAMS and SDB's. Also, the AIM-9X is being uprgarded to a dual-use air-to-air and air-to-ground weapon. The F-22 has already been qualified to carry bombs, and before long the AIM-9X might actually see use in Afghanistan as an air-to-ground weapon. Not true, it has internal bomb bays for JDAMS and SDB’s. Also, the AIM-9X is being uprgarded to a dual-use air-to-air and air-to-ground weapon. The F-22 has already been qualified to carry bombs, and before long the AIM-9X might actually see use in Afghanistan as an air-to-ground weapon.

]]> By: @E_L_Phttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194568 @E_L_P Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:52:57 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194568 Lets see, the F-35 won't be able to stand up to high end threats. ( that is the job of the F-22) and it is too expensive per flying hour to use on useless dirt to kill a few hillbillys with AKs and RPGs. For the USAF at least, there is no justification for this aircraft. For the Marines,... if it works, at least they have STOVL..... for the Navy fielding this aircraft along with the Super Hornet means that the carrier air wing will get shot down pretty easy passed 2020s because both aircraft are obsolete vs. the threat. When that happens, you have a sunk carrier. Long ago, when the USN was asked what they wanted from the JSF it was; 2 engines, 2 seats, and 1000 mile radius. Two out of three for the Super Hornet and none for the JSF. The Super Hornet Block II while lacking airframe performance has stunning avionics in the Block II variant (this kit was what was going to be in the Boeing JSF had it won the competition). And the Super Hornet is about the safest carrier fighter to work in this environment. This includes the fact that the whole of the Hornet community (classic and Super) have had to put one engine back to idle or turn it off. The USN has to pay for big expensive grey floaty things and Rocko and Moose in the ship building industry get their fief every year. So for the Navy, they have no business case for the Just So Flawed either. SInce the USAF has now predicted that they will be getting their F-35s for around $141M each, this causes other blowback. This in part is what cancelled the F-22. Lets see, the F-35 won’t be able to stand up to high end threats. ( that is the job of the F-22) and it is too expensive per flying hour to use on useless dirt to kill a few hillbillys with AKs and RPGs. For the USAF at least, there is no justification for this aircraft.

For the Marines,… if it works, at least they have STOVL.…. for the Navy fielding this aircraft along with the Super Hornet means that the carrier air wing will get shot down pretty easy passed 2020s because both aircraft are obsolete vs. the threat. When that happens, you have a sunk carrier.

Long ago, when the USN was asked what they wanted from the JSF it was; 2 engines, 2 seats, and 1000 mile radius. Two out of three for the Super Hornet and none for the JSF.

The Super Hornet Block II while lacking airframe performance has stunning avionics in the Block II variant (this kit was what was going to be in the Boeing JSF had it won the competition).

And the Super Hornet is about the safest carrier fighter to work in this environment. This includes the fact that the whole of the Hornet community (classic and Super) have had to put one engine back to idle or turn it off.

The USN has to pay for big expensive grey floaty things and Rocko and Moose in the ship building industry get their fief every year.

So for the Navy, they have no business case for the Just So Flawed either.

SInce the USAF has now predicted that they will be getting their F-35s for around $141M each, this causes other blowback. This in part is what cancelled the F-22.

]]> By: Politicohttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194499 Politico Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:54:33 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194499 I think its hilarious there is so much drama over a supposed "5th Generation Fighter" when Eurofighter is bashing it as not 5th Generational and the only 5th generational American fighter is the F22. I think its hilarious there is so much drama over a supposed “5th Generation Fighter” when Eurofighter is bashing it as not 5th Generational and the only 5th generational American fighter is the F22.

]]> By: Matthttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194476 Matt Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:29:50 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194476 As I posted above (though the site seems to have eaten my post) flying your $100 billion spaceship down in the weeds in thrown-rock range is beyond stupid. That said, however, the F-35 might still be better than the A-10 in some respects. Unless it's danger close, would you rather have an F-35 with PGMs arrive on station in ten minutes, or an A-10 in 20? As I posted above (though the site seems to have eaten my post) flying your $100 billion spaceship down in the weeds in thrown-rock range is beyond stupid. That said, however, the F-35 might still be better than the A-10 in some respects. Unless it’s danger close, would you rather have an F-35 with PGMs arrive on station in ten minutes, or an A-10 in 20?

]]> By: Tadhttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194438 Tad Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:45:46 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194438 What I love is how F35 proponents in the air force have said it will replace the A10. Ha ha ha, hilarious! What I love is how F35 proponents in the air force have said it will replace the A10. Ha ha ha, hilarious!

]]> By: Vertigohttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194469 Vertigo Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:55:38 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194469 Thanks, couldn't have said it any better! V. Thanks, couldn’t have said it any better!

V.

]]> By: Valcanhttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194458 Valcan Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:39:14 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194458 How many of those RU super jets can fly regularly or be produced in any good amount. ? How many of those RU super jets can fly regularly or be produced in any good amount.

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]]> By: Valcanhttp://defensetech.org/2010/02/18/f-35-delayed-again/#comment-194457 Valcan Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:38:12 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5734#comment-194457 Maybe the airforce and friends to take a hard look at what out of all there fleet does its job so well it can fight even there efforts to get rid of it. Take a look at the A-10. Maybe its time we stop general perposing everything. Maybe the airforce and friends to take a hard look at what out of all there fleet does its job so well it can fight even there efforts to get rid of it.

Take a look at the A-10. Maybe its time we stop general perposing everything.

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