<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Petraeus Issues New COIN Guidance for Afghan Theater</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:06:43 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: DecentWeasel</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-239541</link> <dc:creator>DecentWeasel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 00:35:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-239541</guid> <description>Not sure I understand. How does &quot;mostly Muslim&quot; and a large percentage of the population considering us &quot;infidels&quot; *not* characterize Iraq? I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re wrong, I&#039;m just ...not seeing what you&#039;re getting at, I guess. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I understand. How does “mostly Muslim” and a large percentage of the population considering us “infidels” *not* characterize Iraq?<br /> I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just …not seeing what you’re getting at, I guess.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Barb</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-239540</link> <dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 00:23:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-239540</guid> <description>BAD BAD IDEA. Afghanistan is NOT Iraq. These people are mostly Muslim and consider us &quot;infidels!&quot; This will cause more troop deaths! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAD BAD IDEA. Afghanistan is NOT Iraq. These people are mostly Muslim and consider us “infidels!” This will cause more troop deaths!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ohwilleke</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207997</link> <dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:07:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207997</guid> <description>The problem is that U.S. troops aren&#039;t trained or equipped well to be a nation building force in Afghanistan.  Imagine Saudi Arabian tourists with phrasebooks and guns trying to overhaul the government in West Virginia or Mississippi and you see the magnitude of the problem.  Good doctrine is of limited value when you don&#039;t have the tools (cultural as much as physical) to carry it out. We don&#039;t have large numbers of people who speak their language, understand their customs, have a sense of what makes the local political system tick, or have the resources to conduct the kind of mass, grassroots ideology building campaign before trying to change people&#039;s ways that the Taliban did.  We also have very few people with any clue how a third world economy works or can be developed.  Soldiers aren&#039;t hired for their cultural sensitivity, experience managing corrupt political systems, Pashtun language expertise, or economic development credentials.  In fact, if someone with that skill set showed up at our door, we&#039;d probably refuse to grant the top secret security clearance necessary to do the relevant jobs or sit on it indefinitely.  This is a job that requires as many people with a Peace Corps or third world lawyer/businessman skill set as it does with a military skill set. At first, when we were successful, with a small number of special ops and CIA agents with more of a sense for what they were dealing with, we had no choice but to outsource jobs.  Now we are doing them ourselves, even though we aren&#039;t well suited to it (and neither are the Canadians or the British). If we want to get a good result we need to stop trying to do the parts of the job we aren&#039;t well suited to do as a military force, and hire a lot of people who we can half way trust, en masse, to do it for us.  To the extent that the skills aren&#039;t available in the Afghan population, we need to go recruiting in Muslim countries with similar issues but more success, give them crash courses in the local language, and hand over the job.  Places like Turkey, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Indonesia would be some natural places to start hiring.  We also ought to be beating the bushes to find people in areas like immigrant communities in places like Detroit and London and Bonn.  The bureaucracy that would supervise them all probably needs to be outside the DOD and NIA, with a very different culture.  This bureaucracy would need to coordinate with the military, but the military should be supporting a nation building agency rather than trying to do it itself. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that U.S. troops aren’t trained or equipped well to be a nation building force in Afghanistan.  Imagine Saudi Arabian tourists with phrasebooks and guns trying to overhaul the government in West Virginia or Mississippi and you see the magnitude of the problem.  Good doctrine is of limited value when you don’t have the tools (cultural as much as physical) to carry it out.</p><p>We don’t have large numbers of people who speak their language, understand their customs, have a sense of what makes the local political system tick, or have the resources to conduct the kind of mass, grassroots ideology building campaign before trying to change people’s ways that the Taliban did.  We also have very few people with any clue how a third world economy works or can be developed.  Soldiers aren’t hired for their cultural sensitivity, experience managing corrupt political systems, Pashtun language expertise, or economic development credentials.  In fact, if someone with that skill set showed up at our door, we’d probably refuse to grant the top secret security clearance necessary to do the relevant jobs or sit on it indefinitely.  This is a job that requires as many people with a Peace Corps or third world lawyer/businessman skill set as it does with a military skill set.</p><p>At first, when we were successful, with a small number of special ops and CIA agents with more of a sense for what they were dealing with, we had no choice but to outsource jobs.  Now we are doing them ourselves, even though we aren’t well suited to it (and neither are the Canadians or the British).</p><p>If we want to get a good result we need to stop trying to do the parts of the job we aren’t well suited to do as a military force, and hire a lot of people who we can half way trust, en masse, to do it for us.  To the extent that the skills aren’t available in the Afghan population, we need to go recruiting in Muslim countries with similar issues but more success, give them crash courses in the local language, and hand over the job.  Places like Turkey, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Indonesia would be some natural places to start hiring.  We also ought to be beating the bushes to find people in areas like immigrant communities in places like Detroit and London and Bonn.  The bureaucracy that would supervise them all probably needs to be outside the DOD and NIA, with a very different culture.  This bureaucracy would need to coordinate with the military, but the military should be supporting a nation building agency rather than trying to do it itself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Infidel4LIFE</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207590</link> <dc:creator>Infidel4LIFE</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:11:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207590</guid> <description>im wondering if wat motivated Vietnam, $$$$ motivated the powers that be. We really ginned up the intel on WMD, and after 9/11 fear was used to sway the public. I hope Cheney and Bush family rot in bloody hell for wat is kinda &quot;known&quot;...no WMD, $$$ to contractors-OIL..wow, wat a snow job... </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im wondering if wat motivated Vietnam, $$$$ motivated the powers that be. We really ginned up the intel on WMD, and after 9/11 fear was used to sway the public. I hope Cheney and Bush family rot in bloody hell for wat is kinda “known”…no WMD, $$$ to contractors-OIL..wow, wat a snow job…</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Infidel4LIFE</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207587</link> <dc:creator>Infidel4LIFE</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207587</guid> <description>YES, Karzai then his bro. They been running game for too long, and the rteality is, a-stan is just too tribal, with ethnic groups who been killing each other for ages. I think the best we can do is try and stand up an army. 2011 could stretch a long way. [Advisors, air power etc] now about &quot;targeting&quot; officials? We talking about legally, OR REAL JUSTICE!!!?????????? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES, Karzai then his bro. They been running game for too long, and the rteality is, a-stan is just too tribal, with ethnic groups who been killing each other for ages. I think the best we can do is try and stand up an army. 2011 could stretch a long way. [Advisors, air power etc] now about “targeting” officials? We talking about legally, OR REAL JUSTICE!!!??????????</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TPCAT</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207563</link> <dc:creator>TPCAT</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:00:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207563</guid> <description>If it makes the mission that little bit easier to achieve without further endangering our troops it has to be good, or at least as good as you can get in a bad situation. It will be interesting to see what General Petraeus does with the new ROE guidelines if and when those are issued. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it makes the mission that little bit easier to achieve without further endangering our troops it has to be good, or at least as good as you can get in a bad situation. It will be interesting to see what General Petraeus does with the new ROE guidelines if and when those are issued.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jacob</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207554</link> <dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:33:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207554</guid> <description>We also tried killing everything that moves (i.e. Vietnam) and that didn&#039;t go too well for us. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also tried killing everything that moves (i.e. Vietnam) and that didn’t go too well for us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: blight</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207548</link> <dc:creator>blight</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207548</guid> <description>Didn&#039;t we try dispersed combat outposts on the frontier between Afghanistan and Pakistan? Wanat and Keating are what happens if we disperse to protect the people and everything goes south due to lack of troops.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn’t we try dispersed combat outposts on the frontier between Afghanistan and Pakistan? Wanat and Keating are what happens if we disperse to protect the people and everything goes south due to lack of troops.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nidi</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207543</link> <dc:creator>Nidi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:46:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207543</guid> <description>Isn&#039;t the &quot;firepower needed to win a fight&quot; generally everything you have available? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t the “firepower needed to win a fight” generally everything you have available?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thunder350</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2010/07/28/petraeus-issues-new-coin-guidance-for-afghan-theater/#comment-207524</link> <dc:creator>Thunder350</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://defensetech.org/?p=8438#comment-207524</guid> <description>If they want to get rid of corrupt officials, they&#039;d need to start with Karzai. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they want to get rid of corrupt officials, they’d need to start with Karzai.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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