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Libyan Rebels Mount APC Gun Turret on Pickup

by John Reed on June 13, 2011

Ok, this is wild. Libyan rebels have taken their Mad Max technical pickup trucks to a new level. The video above shows rebels firing what appears to be the turret-mounted 2A28 Grom gun of a Soviet-designed BMP-1 armored personnel carrier from the back of a pickup. Yes, the entire gun turret has been mounted on crude metal supports in the bed of the truck. Note the office swivel chair that has replaced the original gunner’s seat. Also watch the guy standing next to the truck reach inside the turret to fire the gun. Classic.

The 2A28 Grom is a 73mm, smoothbore, semi-auto gun that fires the same RPG-style ammunition used in the Soviet-built SPG-9 recoilless gun. While its rounds can pierce armor up to 11 inches thick, it’s not very accurate. It’s max effective range is about 700 meters. However, its got only a 70-percent chance of hitting a target at a range of 500 meters. That goes down to a 50-percent hit rate at 800 meters when the gun is firing from a still position with no wind. I’m not even sure what the unstabilized gun’s accuracy is when it’s fired from a moving vehicle.

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Matrix_3692 June 13, 2011 at 11:12 am

just like an old chinese saying: "if you face an exhausted(poor) situation, change(adapt); if you change(adapt), you will move on; if you don't change(adapt), you were doomed".

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Marcase June 13, 2011 at 11:31 am

Priceless!

They won't hit squat of course, but it's a real morale booster!

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anon June 13, 2011 at 11:51 am

I'm assuming it's now manually loaded, as I can't see any sign of the autoloader gear below it.

On a related note, the rocket-boosted ammunition must make sitting in the driving seat a little hairy if the gun fires forwards

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killo June 13, 2011 at 4:07 pm

i would not want to fire that thing because i don't know how strong turret support is.
one shot and it might break and come off the truck, ha ha

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Matt June 13, 2011 at 4:40 pm

******. Perhaps the problem of lack of accuracy can be lessened by using the gun in urban combat (close range) and against large targets (buildings, makeshift bunkers, etc) instead of anti tank in the desert…

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Matt June 13, 2011 at 4:44 pm

Just a thought of course, obviously I’m not in Libya haha

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TROJANII June 13, 2011 at 4:52 pm

Anyone notice how much they sound like Al Qaeda?

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TLAM Strike June 13, 2011 at 7:42 pm

Ever notice how much the entire Islamic world sounds like Al Qaeda?

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Andy June 13, 2011 at 7:44 pm

After they're done with Qaddafi, we could use they're help doing some public relations work in Afghanistan.
It'd be interesting to know the difference between the groups that improvise to kill Qaddafi's men, and the groups that improvise with Iran and Syria's help to kill Nato troops, besides those two countries' influence of course.

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skittles June 13, 2011 at 8:52 pm

To bad that some rebel commanders were fighting us in Afghanistan. I don´t even know why we have to help this people with our airforce. It´s quite ironic: In Afghanistan we are dropping bombs on them while we help them in libya to establish the next Afghanistan.

More infos about Al Qaeda commanders in Libya can be read on the online site of the telegraph.co.uk

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joe June 15, 2011 at 3:12 am

Al Qaeda and Hamas have between them supposedly publiished pretty comprehensive 'how to' guides for asymmetric warfare, just…you know….from the other side. Hell, that article about the british intelligence service messing with an online publication (the swap-bomb-recipe-for-cupcakes-thing) was disrupting a *monthly periodical*.

It's not surprising to see similarities; it's disturbingly equivalent to someone pulling up NATO training manuals.

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TROJANII June 13, 2011 at 7:18 pm

Looks like it's probably steel, not wood.

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DennisBuller June 13, 2011 at 9:36 pm

Hey, if it is mounted on a Toyota it is the most reliable war fighting machine in the world.
Who cares if the enemy has actual tanks. Just wait until they break down after fifty miles of travel…..
All that crap is Russian made. the only thing more maintenance demanding is an Abrams.
In our case we fix them as fast as they break.
Not so much in the Arab world….

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carlosiriarte August 24, 2011 at 2:21 pm

soviet military stuff is actually quite reliable

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MCQknight June 13, 2011 at 11:29 pm

This news is slightly old, I think the first video of these things in action came out around a month ago. Still really cool though.

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Callof Davrodu June 14, 2011 at 9:09 am

Of course you never hear western democratic troops praying…

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Donald Smith August 30, 2011 at 10:23 pm

NOt in a vain, heathen way – no.

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Riceball June 14, 2011 at 11:08 am

I just like how they chanted Allah Ahkba a couple dozen times before they actually fired the thing, almost as if to build up the courage of the "volunteer" who got to fire that first shot. It's like they were saying, "Come on Achmed, you can do it. There's only a slight chance that it will blow up in your face with the first one. Be brave, we've got your back."

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joe June 15, 2011 at 3:14 am

Can't blame them. I'd have felt bloody nervous too!

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Roman June 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm

I don't have anything else to say to that but LOL

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Sooth June 14, 2011 at 6:41 pm

Nominal capability, but you have to hand it to these guys for resourcefulness.

When you grow up with nothing, you quickly learn to use everything…

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joe June 15, 2011 at 3:17 am

As noted, it's just a logical outgrowth of GPMG on the back of a hilux.

Quite a serious outgrowth, though. I can imagine a 'what the hell?' moment the first time one got used.

"Is that a tank turret?"
"Nah..it….oh…sweet merciful…..yeah…..can we run now?"

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bobbymike June 15, 2011 at 9:50 am

I mean the chanting not the concept, silence is golden :) Mind you the famous river crossing scene in "A Bridge too Far" Robert Redford repeats "Hail Mary full of Grace" although it appeared to be a much more perilous situation.

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WH40K June 15, 2011 at 10:55 am

someone has read the Ork codex

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waaagh June 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm

Dey gotta paint it red, red wuns go fasta.

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blight June 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Gargants, on to Tripoli!

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Big Mek September 1, 2011 at 6:05 am

This is clearly not enough Dakka.

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Stephen M Bugeja August 24, 2011 at 1:32 pm

Good stuff that ! when you have nothing , anything is better then nothing! Good moral booster and kicks up some dust!

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howard December 28, 2011 at 3:00 pm

the article mentions accuracy problems of this gun.
the news reports and videos i've seen (past and present)
showed all manner of rockets. etc being fired off and nothing mentioned or
shown on the clips about 'aim'.
i suspect it's fire when ready!
still… give me a bunch of these inventively mounted
73mm, smoothbore, semi-auto guns firing RPGs
to keep the bad guys heads down.
and don't run out of ammo.
that's a hint to the Libyan desert rats.
and one to the Afghan USA dudes.

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VINY February 24, 2012 at 12:46 pm

WAW THOSE LYBIAN SURE DO KNOW HOW TO MAKE THINGS AWSOME.

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