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Video: A Chinese Stealth Fighter Roll

by John Reed on August 17, 2011

Check out this video of China’s J-20 stealth fighter performing a half roll. This is the first time I’ve seen a video of the massive jet do any kind of aerobatics. While you’re at it, watch the clip below of the Russian Su-35’s aerobatic demo for the 2011 MAKS air show in Moscow. The only jet I’ve seen do anything close to this is our (grounded) F-22 Raptor.

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elportonative77 August 17, 2011 at 12:05 pm

So if you see a Sukhoi don't engage in a dogfight?

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B RAD August 17, 2011 at 12:07 pm

Good rolls and stuff, too bad its not WW2 anymore. Would be funny to see a AIM120 fly in from standoff distance and pop that birdy while its sitting in the air!

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reader August 18, 2011 at 3:50 am

AIM120 operational history does not suggest that it would be able to hit something as maneuverable reliably.

More likely, its going to bring down random Black Hawks nearby :/

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BOB August 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm

I don't get it… that roll didn't look too special to me. I'm not an expert, by far… but I've been to enough airshows that I've seen MANY crafts do the same maneuver, unless there is something I'm missing.

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jakemono August 17, 2011 at 1:10 pm

Amazing. F-22 can't touch that plane's all aspect thrust vectoring. Of limited value tactically, but super amazing to watch the big Sukhoi appear to defy gravity/physics

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LLOYD August 17, 2011 at 1:14 pm

Sukhoi ?

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LLOYD August 17, 2011 at 1:14 pm

AHH THE SUKHOI, IGNORE

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Tim August 17, 2011 at 1:40 pm

How is that "all aspect thrust vectoring" help the plane remain "invisible" to radar?

Also, all that agility won't help it dance its way out of an AIM120 dead-lock when it can't even see an F-22.

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Hale August 17, 2011 at 5:36 pm

Since when was the Su-35 meant to be a stealth fighter?

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Lance August 17, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Looks like the T-50 is far more maneuverable than the crappy J-20 despite being less stealthy. I think the T-50 will do well in sales while China's junk will languish in China only. The Russian always built good planes I look forward to the Mikoyan 5th generation fighter there planning to support the T-50 in Russian service.

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Chuck August 17, 2011 at 3:45 pm

I have no idea what she said but Id like to watch her some more….

Back in 73 while stationed at PAX River I watched a F-18 do a similar maneuver in front
of the tower. Back and forth about 300' off the ground using only 300' of taxiway for about
20 minuets. Mesmerizing.

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Kevin August 17, 2011 at 4:41 pm

Russia plans to produce 1000. How many F-22's do we have? And now the production is cancelled. I'm hoping we have some super-secret unmanned fighter in the wings that we know nothing about.

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Tim August 17, 2011 at 8:04 pm

Russia has been announcing several times it would produce a new fleet of nuclear-powered aircraft carrier too… But wait, they still have a problem running the other old one.

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:50 pm

how many su30s do they got? a handful…

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:59 pm

In January 2011, Russian Air Force planned to receive 50 Su-35s by 2015.
hmmmmmmm

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm

so in 2100 Russia will recieve its 1000 t50 :)

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brianckramer August 17, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Russia is full of shit. They can't afford 1000 of anything.

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Hale August 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm

Doesn't matter what Russia can afford, it matters what India (and perhaps S. Korea and other nations) can afford to buy.

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Tim August 17, 2011 at 8:07 pm

India is not going to buy the 250 as it wanted either. Adding up to the few dozens Russia can afford, they would be lucky to get 200 planes produced.

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Praetorian August 17, 2011 at 8:37 pm

Of course, I dont know for sure, but I think the South Koreans are using the PAK FA as a way to get the Americans to come down on thier price. We already have won the FX fighter program phase 1 & 2, which is now the 60 F-15K's. And phase 3 the F-15SE is going up against the Eurofighter,F-35 lightning, and the PAK FA. I think, with the parts base you will already have with the F-15K's, and the familiarity with pilots, it should be a win with the F-15SE.

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blight August 17, 2011 at 11:12 pm

If the South Koreans are worried about the enemies of tomorrow, they may opt for Silent Eagle and turn over the old F-4's and F-5's.

I mean, the South Koreans still have their own KF-X project to protect, and I imagine the local defense industry won't be pleased if ROKAF goes with F-22 or JSF. Both are expensive, and would cut into potential procurement. However, they'd probably be open for the F-15, since it would likely to be replaced/supplanted by a 5th gen fighter anyways.

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STemplar August 19, 2011 at 3:34 am

So two countries we routinely train with might buy T50s, a plane potentially used by one of our adversaries, and thereby give us the chance to train against it and inspect and that's bad because……………….??

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blight August 19, 2011 at 8:34 am

Good point, but I think a lot of people here on DefTech are more interested in the defense industry business angle than potential adversary training.

It's almost like we're industry cheerleaders and we have options on LockMart…but some of us don't?

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Black Owl August 17, 2011 at 5:13 pm

The problem with the American aircraft industry is that we don't make planes that are actually practical for combat. We've over designed the F-22 and F-35 to the point that they are so complex it is nearly impossible to produce either of them without bankrupting the country. The PAK-FA and the J-20 (granted both planes are still pretty young) appear that they are simple enough to mass produce cheaply, mostly because the Russians have never been big on making things super complex and the Chinese are still buying or stealing a majority of their aircraft technology from the Russians. I think the PAK-FA will make a lot of sales since it still has high end technology (although the AESA radar made for it has yet to be shown in a successful test). The J-20 is a piece of crap now, but that could change depending on how it is developed.

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saberhagen August 17, 2011 at 10:41 pm

You meant F-series are not practical? And rubbish like Mig-29 is?

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crackedlenses August 18, 2011 at 4:55 pm

You make a good point, but our planes have to be over-the-top awesome; otherwise we stand at a major disadvantage with any enemy that out-numbers us…..

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blight August 18, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Wait, the PLAAF has more aircraft than the USAF?

Hmm…really….

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm

hahahaha!!! who said that? if im rt, our theoretical number of operational f16s alone outnumber the entire modern chinese air force. ( im not including the chengdu for obvious reasons) :)

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Ronald Reagan August 17, 2011 at 5:26 pm

Are you people all homosexuals… forget about the damn Sukhoi, how hot was that Russian newsreader ?

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pounce August 17, 2011 at 8:01 pm

Ron,
I agree. She really is a babe.

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blight August 17, 2011 at 8:19 pm

She has a pleasant face, but I don't know about words like "babe" or "hot", both of which are thrown around far too often.

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Tim August 17, 2011 at 8:08 pm

You mean that chubby guy explaining the show?…

Just kidding! :)

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Hale August 17, 2011 at 5:38 pm

Thanks Kevin. You get a medal.

Well Chuck? Musta misplaced a decade or something.

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blight August 17, 2011 at 11:17 pm

One would have to go back to well before the LWF competition to P-530, and just after LWF for the P-600, which turns into F-17.

The other possibility is confusing a F-5 with a F-18, as both are Northrop products of common design lineage; but…?

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:57 pm

hey this is random, but you seem to know your stuff. that su35 is a BM right?

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:57 pm

or M?

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:58 pm

i mean S, sorry

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RYW2 August 18, 2011 at 3:22 am

The arrogance on here is astounding to me. The f-22 is'nt invulnerable to enemy counter measures, just harder to detect. If a e-18 g can detect a f-22 and shoot it down so can a su-35 or pak-50. Never underestimate your enemy.

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Guest August 18, 2011 at 5:15 am

same goes for overrating the enemy. like the US has permanent tendency to overrate russian planes.

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CSZ August 18, 2011 at 9:18 am

Just to get more funding from congress.

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:54 pm

but hey, look at teh combat records :)

we thought the mig 25 would be awesome… NOT!!!
we thought the mig 29 woudl equal the f16 in dogfighting and f15 in bvr combat… NOT!!!

I know its all about the pilots but hey its fun to point bloopers

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Chuck August 18, 2011 at 3:26 pm

Well I was there till August of 75. Maybe it was a YF-17 it was awhile ago. I know
it was not a harrier they were as common as flies. But the point was this pilot
could fly!!!
I was aircrew on P-3 for a few years.

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David August 18, 2011 at 5:27 pm

Not sure who wrote the article, but the new Sukhoi only builds on the crazy maneuverability of the original Su-27 (in comparison the F-22 is not nearly as maneuverable).

@Tim:
"Also, all that agility won't help it dance its way out of an AIM120 dead-lock when it can't even see an F-22."

Are you familiar with the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II? How did that "beyond visual range" thing work out?

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jhm August 18, 2011 at 10:55 pm

thats then. do you remember desert storm? adn the f15 kills then? nearly all bvr baby :)

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Sage August 19, 2011 at 8:07 am

True …Desert Storm was a fish-in-a-barrel kind of thing. Just remember though that it is one thing for American F-15s and F-16s to shoot down monkey-model Soviet era Fulcrums flown by nigh-incompetent Iraqi pilots without any situational awareness; and a TOTALLY other thing to do the same against a competent adversary. When Eagles and Vipers do the same over Chinese airspace call me up …until then it is just as relevant as Ethiopian Flankers (flown by Russian mercenaries) shooting down Eritrean Fulcrums (flown by Ukranian mercenaries). A college basketball team beating the sisters-of-mercy 4th grade girls team is really nothing to brag about.

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Sage August 19, 2011 at 8:07 am

To JHM:
True …Desert Storm was a fish-in-a-barrel kind of thing. Just remember though that it is one thing for American F-15s and F-16s to shoot down monkey-model Soviet era Fulcrums flown by nigh-incompetent Iraqi pilots without any situational awareness; and a TOTALLY other thing to do the same against a competent adversary. When Eagles and Vipers do the same over Chinese airspace call me up …until then it is just as relevant as Ethiopian Flankers (flown by Russian mercenaries) shooting down Eritrean Fulcrums (flown by Ukranian mercenaries). A college basketball team beating the sisters-of-mercy 4th grade girls team is really nothing to brag about.

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