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J-20 Fighter Porn and a Poll

by John Reed on September 6, 2011

Here’s some J-20 stealth fighter porn to start your short workweek. Enjoy these photo-montages of the the big fighter rolling and banking hard as its test pilots expand the plane’s flight envelope. Meanwhile, take the poll below the jump and tell us what missions you think China’s stealth jet will be used for.

 

Keep in mind that the Pentagon’s 2011 China report says the J-20 will “eventually give the PLA Air Force a platform capable of long range, penetrating strikes into complex air defense environments.” By eventually, the DoD means sometime after 2018.

We’ll do another poll soon on how effective you think the J-20 will be in combat.

Images via China Defense Blog.

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Hunter78 September 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm

Primary mission: Showing the flag.

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Pounce September 6, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Have to agree with Hunter here. That's a big big kite, that looks like as if it is as manoeuvrable as the ADV Tornado . Put it up against a smaller much more agile fighter and you have something similar to the Gnat and the super Sabre scenario of 1965.

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Billy September 6, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Never underestimate your rivals.

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crackedlenses September 7, 2011 at 9:39 am

Overestimating your rivals will give you an equally big head-ache as well…..

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chockblock September 6, 2011 at 3:20 pm

It's the PLA's F-15E.

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j20sucks September 6, 2011 at 3:25 pm

that is a very wide turn the f22 has a way better turn radius

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BobSacamano September 6, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Its use is obvious, to pull "Eat At Wang's" aerial advertizing banners!!!

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tiger September 6, 2011 at 10:13 pm

Take out delivery? Pork fried rice & spring roll, on the bomb racks.

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Lance September 6, 2011 at 3:39 pm

No pics of the Su PK your too intrenched in Chinese junk. This plan is making a scar like the MiG-25 did in the 70s and the plane isn't a super fighter like many thought.

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Alex September 14, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Exactly, J-20 is nothing more than test bead for some new tech(like is composite materials, and avionics integration). 5.Gen air plain?! which has aerodynamic solutions from 3+ and 4 gen plains(like is downside, side "glide" Stabilizers, canards to reduce the speed of landings and distance for take-off and all that is STEALTH, don't make me laugh)(super cruise, and over mach 2 whit DSI air intake, don't make me laugh, again) This plain is Mutant of Aerodynamic Solutions and please don't compare him whit F-22 and PAK-FA, . Questionable .AESA and relatively modern avionics is not enough for air plain to be 5. gen

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Jayson September 6, 2011 at 4:52 pm

Nothing elaborate with the jet. I doubt it's fast enough nor stealth enough to do what it's dreamed of to do.

All in all, a good first generation Chinese made fighter that hasn't fallen apart like any made in China product. I'm interested what the 2nd and 3rd gen products will be like.

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Riceball September 7, 2011 at 11:10 am

FYI, the Chinese make some pretty good copies of Russian MiGs; iirc one of the best selling variants of the MiG-21 is the Chinese made version, the J7. When it comes to military hardware the Chinese make pretty decent stuff, obviously not comparable to our hardware but definitely not junk.

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John Moore September 6, 2011 at 5:25 pm

You should see what the f-35 can do when I chop up a bunch of images hahaha just playing

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passingby February 9, 2012 at 1:46 am

I don't think the F-35 can do much beside getting grounded for various technical problems, corrosion, cracks, computer crashes, mechanical malfunctions, incompatible subsystems, coating peel-offs, and lack of money.

The F-35 is an ultra-expensive, semi-flying piece of junk. You heard it here first.

You'll see in a couple of years.

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SJE September 6, 2011 at 6:45 pm

This is the first try, and they could learn very fast

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JE McKellar September 6, 2011 at 7:24 pm

Not exactly a Mig-31 style interceptor, but a long-range hunter-killer of AWACS, tankers, EW platforms, and other well-protected support aircraft.

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Stratege September 7, 2011 at 8:59 am

AFAIK Chinese don't have a ultra-long range "AWACS-killer" air-air missiles

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Fritzthedog September 6, 2011 at 7:48 pm

Im sure it will be used mostly in Tom Clancy novels….but I we would be foolish to underestimate the PLAs ability to innovate based on learnings form this platform. The Chinese have learned to adapt and innovate to a high degree of success…more that we thought possible in the world of high-tech ten years ago. This is a new, younger and more outward looking and learning China.

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tiger September 6, 2011 at 10:16 pm

You right. Americans in 1940 did not think the Zero could be as good as it was either. We never learn.

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crackedlenses September 7, 2011 at 9:39 am

That never stops us from killing the enemy like a kid eating candy, though…..

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jemc50 September 6, 2011 at 9:49 pm

Remember, the test pilots are under strict orders to not wreck it. Hence, they are not going to push the flight envelope very far, since they only have one.

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tiger September 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm

Ah. fighter porn….. In the words of Sterling Archer, "Ben wa…… Balls."

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James September 6, 2011 at 11:04 pm

Neither…it’s the new overnight delivery plane for all of wonderful wal-mart goods. That thing can haul at least 100lbs of rubber dog s&$+.

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John B September 6, 2011 at 11:15 pm

The chinese commie must be stupid or something. They display all the secretive weapons they do not even have. Yet their military expense is opaque.

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OMEGATALON September 6, 2011 at 11:20 pm

Looking at a prototype aircraft and making an analysis of it's capability is just speculation as we've got to remember this prototype is what China is allowing us to see is one variant of the J-20 and because China is such a large country, China can have a different model flying elsewhere as we're not going to really know until China displays the J-20 at an airshow or begins selling the dam things.

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Letsallbefriends September 7, 2011 at 4:37 am

That’s a good point. Given that they are so secretive about other things, it’s strange that they’re testing this thing so publically. It’s probably to impress their own nationalists, but I suppose it could be a decoy to keep us from looking at something else.

Personally I do think it’s part of their access denial, anti-carrier/AWACS deterrent strategy. Comparisons with the F22/JSF are a mistake because it’s built for a different job. I think a more important question than how stealthy or agile it is will be how many they can make. Lots of good enough carrier-busters fighting for their home turf will be a powerful deterrent to a few really good systems fighting far from home.

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Chops September 7, 2011 at 9:14 am

I don't understand how anyone can think China might have a secret base and production facility anywhere else-they constantly state to the news media that they are an open culture that does not keep secrets from its' citizens.HA-HA

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JRL September 7, 2011 at 8:38 am

What difference does it make if it can't sustain a 7G turn, perform double Pugachevs with a flick of the wrist, or accelerate in the vertical? This is not your father's fightermobile.

Donch'a know that in the 21st century, "manouverability is irrelevant"? F-35 defender and Big Cheese of Northrop Grumman said so…

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JSFMIKE September 7, 2011 at 9:15 am

It reminds me of the interceptor version of the Lockheed Blackbird fleet of variants. The SR-71 is the best known but the original design was for a long range interceptor meant to shoot down USSR bombers at 75 – 100 miles away. The Phoenix missile was developed for this mission. There appears to be a missile bay on the bottom of the J-20 similar to the F-22 and a side bay for a Chinese version of the Sidewinder. That puts it into the F-22 role but the size of the airframe seems too big and the vertical tails too small to have similar F-22 flight characteristics. But Remember — It's a PROTOTYPE!

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Mastro September 7, 2011 at 10:27 am

Its what the F35 should have been- before we made it the Swiss Army knife of planes.

America needs a medium range stealthy strike craft- an F15E/F111 – instead we are getting the F105 – except a lot slower.

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Guest September 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm

The Swiss Army knife is an awsome tool. It's quality is unprecedented.

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Jack September 7, 2011 at 4:58 pm

If you look at the structure the J-20 would only be stealthy on approach and would light up on radar like a Christmas tree when turning away (notice the very unstealthy round afterburners). This means it would work well as an interceptor, but might be taking big risks as a strike aircraft. If a J-20 strike package failed to kill all the anti-aircraft batteries near their target on approach they would find themselves in deep trouble dodging the current generation of AA missiles on egress.

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Stan September 7, 2011 at 7:59 pm

Chinese military's current goal as far as the US is concerned is area denial. With that in mind the new fighter would serve best as an interceptor.

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Matt September 10, 2011 at 9:24 pm

While the Chinese dont have the tech, training, or exp of America they arent stupid. I doubt nation would spend all the money a 5th gen costs for a single use (even the F-22 can carry bombs and/or air to air missles).

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devon December 26, 2013 at 9:41 am

my simple analysis is that its going to be used as a long range aircraft – carrier killer or naval fleet killer platform carrying maybe a BrahMos type of missiles.

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Riceball September 7, 2011 at 11:08 am

You don't need maneuverability to be an interceptor, you just need to be fast and carry lots of missiles. The purpose of an interceptor is to get up in the air fast so you can try to catch up to your target (usually bombers, fire off missiles and hope to shoot them down. To perform this mission a plane doesn't need to be maneuverable like an air superiority fighter since a pure interceptor is not meant to go up and tangle with other fighters.

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