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Russia wants a hypersonic bomber

by Mike Hoffman on August 29, 2012

Russian leaders have taken notice of the U.S. Air Force’s plans to build a next generation bomber announcing they have set their sites on building a hypersonic bomber.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said his country won’t settle for a bomber like the B-2. Air Force leaders want to pursue the same hypersonic technology the U.S. military is trying to develop.

Rogozin’s comments come conspicuously close to a failed hypersonic test flight the U.S. Air Force held on Aug. 15. The test flight vehicle dropped into the Pacific Ocean 15 seconds after it was released from a specially outfitted B-52 and never reached the Mach 6 speeds U.S. Air Force officials had hoped.

To fly hypersonic means flying five times the speed of sound (Mach 5) or faster than 3,840 miles per hour.

The Russians hope to build their hypersonic bomber by 2020, Rogozin said. That timeline seems a bit ambitious if they are starting to develop the engines now.

The U.S. started its Waverider program in 2004 having spent $140 million. The Aug. 15 was the last test scheduled under the program. Pentagon officials will have to seek additional funding to continue the program.

Engineers built the X-51A Waverider’s scramjet engine to fly without liquid jet propellant. The engine instead uses the oxygen in the air to propel it. It also harnesses the energy created by its own shock wave to reach top speeds up to Mach 6.

The U.S. Air Force had hoped to outfit an operational aircraft with hypersonic engines by 2016. Following this month’s test failure and the questions over future funding, those goals are very much in doubt. For the Russians to design and deliver a hypersonic bomber by 2020, seems just as unlikely.

U.S. officials have not specified whether their own next generation bomber would fly hypersonic speeds. The U.S. Air Force said in 2007 the bomber would likely be subsonic to keep costs under control. Of course, the next generation bomber program has been scrapped and then brought back since then by the Pentagon.

However, it’s hard to envision the U.S. fielding a hypersonic bomber in the next decade with the budget shortfalls they will experience the next five years. Not to mention the struggle they’ve had building the fifth generation fighter fleet.

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Pilgrimman August 29, 2012 at 11:13 am

>Russia
>Hypersonic anything

Oh God, my sides!

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EJ257 August 29, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Did you forget the ICBMs they still have pointed at us?

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Andy August 29, 2012 at 7:34 pm

Did you forget OUR MISSILE DEFENSE ?

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joe August 30, 2012 at 4:22 am

Did you in turn forget the ballistic missile defence they've had since the late eighties?

Russia may not have vest amounts of money, which is what will probably kill this one, but they have very good engineers. I would be very hesitant before writing them off in this field of expertise:

First object to orbit – Russian
First manned heavy lift to orbit – Russian
First supecavitating torpedo – Russian
Fastest air-to-air armed aircraft – Russian
Fastest tactical and strategic missiles – Russian
Generally acknowledged scariest SAMs outside of US arsenal – Russian

Am I saying they're better than the US? No. But if anyone else can make this work, they're a pretty solid bet.

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Andy August 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm

They bluff, Russian don't have jackssst, S400 that all they have

andy September 1, 2012 at 10:42 am

Do you remember Russian test they BOULAVAR MISSILE ?

Stratege August 30, 2012 at 6:07 am

Missile defense is helpless against full-scale attack. Especially since the new Russian ICBMs/SLMBs (Topol-M, RS-24, Bulava SLBM) have maneuvering warheads (thats means unpredictable trajectory) which are capable to evade the missile defense's interceptors.

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Andy August 30, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Again, they are untest

yoyo August 29, 2012 at 6:06 pm

Don't forget, they have supersonic cruise missiles, whereas we have zero.

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Andy August 29, 2012 at 7:34 pm

they cruise missiles are untest and unproven.

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Stratege August 30, 2012 at 6:08 am

Russian cruise missiles are untested? Are you kidding?

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Andy August 30, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Again they missile are untested and even they Nuclear sub. are build straight from prototype to production …untested ..

William C. August 31, 2012 at 6:32 am

Supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles, which are far larger than the Tomahawk and subsonic cruise missiles and have a shorter range.

Not that they aren't a useful capability, but their large size can be a limiting factor.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 7:21 am

Russian supersonic cruise missile "Klub" is smaller than Tomahawk
Another one Russia's Kh-101 (subsonic stealthy cruise missile) have a range of over 5000 km.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Kh-101 has twice range of the Tomahawk

William C. August 31, 2012 at 3:44 pm

The Klub is a very interesting design. The supersonic version of the Klub is a pure anti-ship missile and only goes supersonic during the final attack phase. The Kh-101 with 5000 km range was never fielded either.

Stratege August 30, 2012 at 7:49 am

Russians tested their hypersonic vehicles years before USA had tested it's own.

Soviet made hypersonic vehicle "Holod" (speed: >6.5M, duration of flight: 77 seconds) did a test flight in 1990s

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Andy August 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm

test what ? your new pak even copy f22…stop bluffing..

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 1:30 am

Soviets was ahead the USA in hypersonic technology.

PAK-FA is not copy of anything. Stealth dictates the similar shape and look.

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JackBlack September 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm

LOL, what?
I have not read that their pilots are suffering from lack of oxygen.

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PMI September 17, 2012 at 2:42 pm

The X-15 performed almost 200 manned hypersonic flights from 1961-1967.

You also conveniently left out the fact that GLL Holod reached those speeds after French & NASA engineers came in to help the project after the fall of the USSR.

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Stratege November 6, 2012 at 2:08 am

The X-15 had the rocket engine.
"Holod" was a worlds first hypersonic vehicle with the ramjet engine.
The help of French and NASA was a only financial.

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Nicky August 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm

Who knows in the next 50 yrs the US can field a Hypersonic or Orbital Bomber

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octopusmagnificens August 29, 2012 at 1:53 pm

I say 20 years for the first.

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wjsteele August 29, 2012 at 2:16 pm

The US has had orbital bombers since the 70's! It's called the Space Shuttle and it's mini successor, the X-37. (Why do you think the USSR went through so much trouble copying the Space Shuttle?)

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tiger August 29, 2012 at 3:26 pm

They are are not weapons systems.

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Ben August 29, 2012 at 7:47 pm

And why not? Because the Air Force says so?

If you're going to weaponize space, you're smart to do it quietly. There's no sense in tipping your hand from a military standpoint. Also, I don't think the global community would like hearing that anywhere of any country could be engaged at any time, without warning or hope of defense.

My money's all on it being a bomber, among other things.

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dirtylodown August 29, 2012 at 12:50 pm

The keep reference this as a failure. This isnt the first test of this. It was successful last time. I do remember Shepard Smith talking about in a few years ago.

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FormerDirtDart August 29, 2012 at 3:33 pm

There have been three powered flight tests, all have failed to achieve planned test parameters.
26 Aug. 2010: Achieved mach 5, but only met 2/3 of planned flight duration.
13 Jun. 2011: Scramjet engine failed to transition to JP-7 fuel.
14 Aug. 2012: Tail control surface failure caused catastrophic loss of control on separation from booster.

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Nick August 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Cool, maybe we can steal tech from them for a change.

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Ed August 30, 2012 at 10:21 am

You mean like stealth tech? ;)

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William C. August 31, 2012 at 6:39 am

It wasn't stolen from them. The first aircraft with significant stealth characteristics (although unintentional) were the designs of Jack Northrop (US) and the Horton brothers (Germany).

IIRC a Russian was the first to write up mathematical theory for RCS reduction. The Soviets never did anything with this however.

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00mpal00mpa September 5, 2012 at 1:59 am

The Russians developed their own stealth technology which is DISTINCT from American Stealth. Instead of using metamaterials which absorb the energy from radar pulses and transduce it into heat, it uses a plasma envelope to scatter radar.

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john July 17, 2013 at 10:11 pm

You mean you have never copied from them before? you must be joking. Lockheed got the idea from Yakalov which manufactured YAK-141. Go and read up, most of your designers originated from either Germany of Russia. Example. Sikosky

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Musson August 29, 2012 at 12:54 pm

So they can bomb any site in China within 11 minutes?

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EW3 August 29, 2012 at 1:03 pm

Imagine the IR target a hypersonic anything would be.

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Nick August 29, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Doesn't matter, nothing is fast enough to hit it.

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EW3 August 29, 2012 at 5:01 pm

All things are hittable (or laserable).

Folks said we could never hit a missile with a missile (bullet with a bullet) but the SM-3 is doing a decent job of it, as are the Patriots and Arrows.

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RunningBear August 29, 2012 at 5:29 pm

I haven't seen any test coments about maneuvering the targets???, have you?

Agreed, anything that is hypersonic and ballistic can be hit, but if it maneuvers hypersonicly in the atmosphere, I'm not the current systems can catch it.

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Mat August 29, 2012 at 6:45 pm

Most intercepts were of target ballons ,hardly comparable to anything going hypersonic ,remeber SR71 evaded all SAM defences, an its turn radius at mach 3 is something like 100miles.
Lasers are strongly affected by atmosferic conditions so its quite unlikely for a land based laser to be able to shoot at anything in the stratosphere

SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 5:33 pm

Yes, but what is the Pk? How many shots does it take? How long does the defender have to detect, ID, target, and kill? How many targets can he engage in that extremely short window? Hypersonic speed is a no-trivial force multiplier.

Remember, it's taken us 30 years and billions of dollars to achieve our current BMD capability. If hypersonic platforms and weapons buy us a 30-year advantage on our adversaries, it may be well worth the investment.

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octopusmagnificens August 29, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Supposedly, the Next Generation Bomber will be subsonic.

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Raraavis August 29, 2012 at 3:11 pm

The Next Next Generation Bomber is suppose to be a Global Reach Hypersonic or High-Hypersonic Bomber I think it is schedulrd to enter service in 2048. Seriously that is the time line that is also when the last B-52 is suppose to retire.

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octopusmagnificens August 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm

That's the unofficial "2037 Bomber". The Next Next Generation Bomber is supposed to be subsonic.

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Raraavis August 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm

The US Next Generation Bomber is suppose to be an subsonic, optionally manned shorter-ranged, smaller-payload, but much stealther B2. The Hypersonic Global Strike is not suppose to go into service until mid-century.

I am guessing neither will ever be built.

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dude August 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm

It is much more practical (and cheaper!) to make the munition hypersonic than the whole aircraft hypersonic.

SR71/B1A/F15/F22 all suggest that Mach2 is fast enough for manned aircraft. Use LO hypersonic A2/AD missile to destroy target protected by IADS.

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Marvin August 29, 2012 at 5:46 pm

Depends what you mean by "fast enough" (or, "fast enough for what?") The stated goal seems to be to be able to strike a target anywhere in the world within a few hours – something that is not really practical with Mach 2 aircraft. Also, even at Mach 3 the SR-71 would have a tough time with modern air defenses. Hence most strategy today would involve strikes to first neutralize enemy air defenses via cruise missiles and low level penetration strikes below radar.

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SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 5:44 pm

Russia has already a huge inventory of hypersonic munitions which provide it a robust Prompt Global Strike capability. They're called ICBMs.

They're also completely unusable in any military contingency in which Russia is not willing to cross the nuclear threshold.

Hence (I suspect) the need for a hypersonic delivery platform capable of precision delivery of conventional munitions.

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TomR April 9, 2013 at 3:25 pm

The SR71 has been engaged/fired upon some 4,000 times, and has never been shot down. Something to be said for speed.

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Nadnerbus August 29, 2012 at 5:09 pm

Never mind if they have the technical capacity to do this, which they probably don't. They don't have the money to do this, and unless oil shoots up to 200 dollars a barrel, they probably never will. Russia is commendable for their efforts to modernize their armed forces, both with new modern gear and trying to become more westernized with highly trained volunteers instead of apathetic conscripts. But they still have a fleet rusting pier side, massive investments in new ballistic missile subs and ICBMs, an underfunded fighter fleet, etc.

There still seems to be an old Soviet mindset of keeping up with the Joneses, and trying to be a world power when they would be much better served acting in the capacity of regional power.

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tmb2 August 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm

Their bomber pilots only get about 80 hours a year behind the stick. I can't imagine that's nearly enough hours to get good at flying anything let alone a bleeding edge aircraft.

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Stratege August 30, 2012 at 6:54 am

Russian bomber pilots get about 120 hours in 2011.

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Ed August 30, 2012 at 10:33 am

For comparison, B2 pilots get 100 to 150 hours per year. So hardly a difference there.

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Stratege August 30, 2012 at 6:19 am

A regional power with the world's most modern and the most numerous strategic nuclear deterrent forces?

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Nadnerbus August 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm

The focus on their nuclear forces is almost precisely BECAUSE they know they can't go toe to toe anymore with conventional forces. Unless they are going to nuke their way into a position of world dominance, then yeah, they are still built and funded like a regional power. Nothing wrong with that either.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 2:06 am

You mean that Russian army can't go conventionaly against the whole rest of the world? But that's not its purpose. Russian conventional forces are strongest in European and Asian region. The modernization program of the Russian army (besides the strategic nuclear forces ) is very ambitious.

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Nadnerbus August 31, 2012 at 2:31 am

Yeah, well, that was my point (I think). Back to the article then, why a hypersonic bomber? Everyone knows what the US is all about. We want to put our nose in everyone's business anywhere in the world in a short amount of time. Why does Russia need one when they already have the nuclear force to deter the US or any other stronger conventional military power? A hypersonic bomber is by nature a force projection platform, one that an expeditionary military would want, a hallmark of a world power, not a regional one.

tiger August 29, 2012 at 6:15 pm

How about Russia finding a cure for AIDS or something? The world does not need a faster way to kill each other. We have plenty already. Even more flavored vodka types would be more useful to the world……….

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Tim August 29, 2012 at 7:01 pm

I wouldn't take the Russian leaders' comments seriously, especially when it comes to new weapon systems. They are no longer the Soviet Union, which collapsed while trying to top the U.S. on every weapon type. Nowadays, Russia can't even produce a decent UAV. It is at least two decades behind the U.S. in that area. It's only 5th generation fighter is only in the initial testing phase. By the time they could field that, the FF-22 is almost halfway through its useful life.

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Andy August 29, 2012 at 7:38 pm

and dont' forget they can't even buit a Amphibious, they ahve to buy it from French.

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Ed August 30, 2012 at 10:39 am

So, whenever a country imports something they can’t build it themselves? Does that mean the US can’t make howitzers, since they import the M777? No medium transport aircraft because they import the C-27J? Russia makes aircraft carriers, for crying out loud…

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 2:19 am

Stupid note.
Russia can built spaceships and nuclear submarines (the most sophisticated engineering creations), but can't design amphibiousassault ship.

I guess, you should also assume that the smartest and strongest nation on Earth (USA) can't even design a decent machine gun so the US army uses a Belgian MG designs.

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SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 5:58 pm

You should do your homework. The Russians have built plenty of amphibious ships. They have exported plenty of large and small combatants to foreign customers around the world. They continue to be a major worldwide supplier of highly sophisticated weapons and platforms.

Back on topic, Russian aerospace know-how is formidable. You underestimate them unfairly. Sukhoi, MiG, TSAGI, Khrunichev, etc. are still powerhouses in this field. If the Russians make it a priority and can sustain program funding, they are every bit as capable of producing a hypersonic bomber as the US defense industry.

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Chris August 29, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Russia's biggest enemy right now is a declining population and a seriously hurting infrastructure. They are "reasserting" themselves to try and regain as much of their old foothold from the SU days as possible while the US is tied up in the middle east and asia. Nothing new here… they have to maintain a public image in the mother land. They would be dreaming to think they will have an operational (and tbh I don't even see them having a test platform) by 2020. More like 2075.

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Ed August 30, 2012 at 10:46 am

Agreed, 2020 seems unlikely – unless they plan to power it with rockets or something. But this is just a politician who *thinks* they should do that, with his reason being American progress. I hope that actual needs assessment will provide a more thorough base.

That said, hasn’t there already been such research? Didn’t Sukhoi have an alternative to the Tu-160 that was much more ambitious?

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Ron August 29, 2012 at 7:40 pm

The arms race with Russia keeps us in check to always be ahead. Just when you thought we are laggin behind, BOOM DARPA is there to WOW us. Remember guys neither Russia or China sat foot on the moon yet!!!and that's 60's technology, need I say more.

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Stephen September 1, 2012 at 3:35 am

I guess we should'nt have leaked the fact there was nothing on the moon to steal….

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Stratege September 1, 2012 at 6:37 am

Do you really believe that USSR was not technically capable to set foot on the moon surface?

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SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Probably not. By the time they could develop a sufficiently powerful and reliable booster, they lost the political will and economic ability to sustain the program. There have been some interesting revelations about the Soviet N-1 booster program in the last few years. You should google it.

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Marcellus Hambrick August 29, 2012 at 8:06 pm

The Chinese will have one before the Russkies!

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stephen russell August 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm

Unless Russia steals plans from Area 51NV or other source & then engineers that way, since we see obvious espionage with F22 & T90 Stealth jets alone,
Need to use Hypersonic for Military & Commercial
IE Tokyo to London
Miami to So Africa
LA CA to Hanoi Vietnam Runs.

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SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 6:08 pm

Yes some espionage…but not where you can see it. Much of the similarity is driven by aerodynamics and RF physics. Russian aerodynamicists (those who are still in business, anyway) are still among the best in the world.

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sergei August 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm

free vodka with purchase only yesturday bring certificate

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Tim August 29, 2012 at 10:35 pm

I presume these Russian hypersonic bombers will join their hundreds of 6th gen fighters , super subs and Mach 3 cruise missiles in fantasy land while the budget money ends up in Switzerland. Considering they have no more than six subs that can actually go on deep water missions and the whole defence industry has crumbled into nothing due to all the top guys leaving back in the 90′s I doubt very much this vodka fuelled bs means anything. Russia is militarily screwed and demographically consigned to a slow decline.

The bear ia finished.

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tiger August 30, 2012 at 1:56 am

It is stupid. Even for the US. As a research tool into hi speed flight? Fine. Beyond that, folks in the Midwest care more about the lack of rain than the lack of hypersonic bomber.

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Stratege August 30, 2012 at 6:51 am

Russian military industial complex is on recovery now.

Where you get the information about Russia'a only six capable subs? Isn't it just a your wiskey fueled fantasy?

Active Russian strategic subs fleet includes:

~10 of modernized Delta4 class SSBNs with updated SLBMs.
Future strategic fleet: 8 of 4th generation "Borei" class SSBN equipped with new SLBM. Two of these subs scheduled commissioning this year

10 active SSNs ("Akula" and "Improved Akula" class)

8 active SSGN subs ("Granit"/"Antey" / NATO: Oscar1/2)

10 of 4th generation SSN/SSGN "Yasen/Yasen-M" are planned. One scheduled commissioning next year.

Russian demographic dynamics is getting better each year.

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SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 6:10 pm

Nice post. For a minute there I thought I was the only one who's been keeping current on recent events.

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GoHomeRuskies August 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm

An eagle can fly – a bear? It hibernates and dies.

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00mpal00mpa September 5, 2012 at 2:00 am

I think you take the animal mascots too seriously.

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blight_ September 5, 2012 at 3:34 am

Double headed eagles are twice as awesome! lul lul lul.

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Chris August 30, 2012 at 12:08 am

Reading this paragraph made my brain hurt:

“Engineers built the X-51A Waverider’s scramjet engine to fly without liquid jet propellant. The engine instead uses the oxygen in the air to propel it. It also harnesses the energy created by its own shock wave to reach top speeds up to Mach 6.”

A quick look at Wikipedia would tell you that:

“The X-51 uses JP-7 fuel for the SJY61 scramjet, carrying some 270 lb (120 kg) onboard.”

I believe what’s meant here, is that the scram-jet, being an air breathing engine, does not carry its own oxidant on-board.

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guess August 30, 2012 at 1:51 am

It was my understanding that a scram jet had no moving parts. The super sonic air comes in the front, mixes with fuel and that burns producing thrust. Unlike turbo fan based engines, with their compressor blades

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guess August 30, 2012 at 1:56 am

Besides. Aren’t all jet engines are breathing? Cause if it uses an oxidant it would be a rocket right? Cause that would be a chemical reaction causing the thrust like on the Saturn V…
I think it must be a typo on defense tech’s end

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Chris August 30, 2012 at 4:43 am

My point exactly, I just thought it would be sufficiently obvious.

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Nick August 30, 2012 at 9:07 am
Chris August 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm

They did actually get funding for the next x-51 flight. Source: Family member in propulsion directorate in AFRL

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Pappa51 August 30, 2012 at 1:57 pm

I think the Russian's need to develop a Hyper Jet. It will keep them busy for years to come. Like they say Idle hands are the Devils work shop. And they have been in that work shop a long time. Really; an orbital bomber will be the next generation.
I'm Done. . . .
Cheers

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DB Cooper August 31, 2012 at 8:46 am

They cant even build a plane that doesnt have to be taken in for major service once a year or build an engine for them that doesnt break down often and they expect to build a hypersonic plane that doesnt blow up? It won't happen.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 1:12 pm

You have probably confused Russian planes with Chinese. But even Chinese planes (with Russian built-engine)doesn't need to be taken out of service each year.

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00mpal00mpa September 5, 2012 at 3:39 am

They've already built hypersonic missiles that don't blow up. Hypersonic aircraft are the next step. The russian design will use MHD propulsion.

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SecretSquid September 4, 2012 at 5:27 pm

What's with the irrelevant picture, DT? Why a picture of a Boeing X-45 UCAV in an article discussing hypersonic bombers? There is nothing about the X-45 that is remotely hypersonic.

Maybe DT needs writers or editors with a better command of defense technologies.

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00mpal00mpa September 5, 2012 at 1:57 am

It turns out that a Russian Hypersonic Plane is ALREADY in the works. It's know to the west as AJAX. There are no photos of it that I could find on the internet. And I haven't managed to find any news info about it but I suspect that the Kremlin is being suspiciously silent because they are busy at work with new technology. Given that they have a state controlled media, it's highly unlikely that these sorts of defense projects would be publicized.

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Thomas L. Nielsen September 5, 2012 at 3:12 am

"It turns out that a Russian Hypersonic Plane is ALREADY in the works. It's know to the west as AJAX"

Source, please?

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg

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Stratege September 6, 2012 at 1:56 am

AJAX aircraft was nothing more than a paper draft.
However, the new types of Russian ICBMs are equipped with maneuverable hypersonic vehicles (warhead-equipped, 6M at the terminal stage) with nonballistic (unpredictable) trajectory to avoid ABM. There're also Russian hypersonic cruise missile Kh-90 (ALCM).

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Taxpayer71 September 5, 2012 at 10:57 am

In general funding of advanced technology development such as WAVERIDER is justified by some envisioned military application/requirement that has passed some level of review in the acquisition and budget processes. What is the military advantage offered by a hypersonic bomber? While I like advanced technology as well as the next person, this project needs a good scrub to verify that it makes sense, especially in tight these tight budget times.

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Jeffrey October 8, 2012 at 3:19 pm

If the Russians do develop that kind of tech then we better stay on their good side. They are probably 17-19 years away from that us pretty much the same maybe less.

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dress i show you here October 5, 2013 at 11:04 am
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Mat August 29, 2012 at 6:40 pm

Maybe they should take you to court for patent infingment ,basis of stealth stems from Petr Ufimtsev , Method of Edge Waves in the Physical Theory of Diffraction 1962.
Or the latest F35B rotating nozzle designed by Yakovlev design buro.

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Stratege August 30, 2012 at 6:14 am

SR-71 was able to evade obsolete SAM defenses. But it's dead meat against the S-200 (long range Soviet system from the same time period) and newer SAM.

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Ed August 30, 2012 at 10:28 am

Well at least LockMart licensed it fair and square (also leaving no doubt as to its origins). And as for stealth tech, I think they “imported” that Soviet scientist, letting him live in the US. So that guy probably wouldn’t object to this ‘stealing’ either.

But it’s true, it’s not like the US is the inventor of everything, not by a long shot – including some of the stuff they produce and use themselves.

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blight_ August 31, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Publications aren't patents.

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Dfens August 30, 2012 at 3:50 pm

Like hell. It defeated S-200's all the damn time. More revisionist history.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 1:22 am

Russian missiles are regularly tested. A few of successful missile launches every years.
While the last two test launches of the Minuteman3 missile (America's only land-based ICBM) had failed.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 1:46 am

It was not able to defeat the s-200 since the sr-71 had never tried to overfy the s-200's sites.
S-200's missiles had a peak speed around of 9000 kmh and 130,000 ft max flight altitute. That was more than enough to kill the SR-71.
Sr-71 had straightforward maneuverability and literally zero chances to avoid a long range SAM missiles.

Sure, SR-71 had many overflights over Vietnam/Middle East region against outdated/middle range air defense systems (mostly the SA-2). Where the myth about Sr-71's invulnerability comes from.

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William C. August 31, 2012 at 6:27 am

The Minuteman III has been in service for ages, it works but our SSBNs with their Trident IIs are the real threat.

The Russians have had many difficulties getting their new SLBM to work, and most of their Typhoon class boats have been retired, leaving only the older Deltas.

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 1:29 pm

In 2011, Russia produced around 40 of ICBM/SLBM. How many missiles were produced in the USA? And why the well proven old MM3 had failed?
The reason the "Typhoon" class submarines are being decommissioned is that the R-39 (SS-N-20) SLBM that they carry have reached end of their operational lives. Another reason – extremely high cost to keep and maintain these giants. All operational Delta subs are being modernized and getting the new SLBMs. "Bulava" SLBM for the new Borei class SSBNs has refined to working condition, finally .

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Stratege August 31, 2012 at 5:51 pm

You can easily find photos of the Tu-95 bomber with Kh-101(102) under its wings

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blight_ August 31, 2012 at 6:30 pm

Amusingly, we are doing civilian launches with our old Atlas and whatever's left of MX rockets.

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JackBlack September 2, 2012 at 1:35 pm

You know, there are still gulags for opinions like yours.

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das September 28, 2012 at 1:43 am

Hypersonic tech was brought to the US by expatriate soviet scientists also! America doesn't invent, they just buy the invention, at least until now. What are they going to do when their wages are not the best anymore? then their scientist will go to other countries also… that's how evolution takes it's place!

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