AF admits F-22 mistakes to Congress

Air Force leaders admitted to Congress Thursday the service was wrong not to immediately install a backup oxygen system and is only now getting around to making fixes to the F-22’s oxygen schedule recommended in 2005.

The Air Force has spent the past two years trying to determine why their F-22 pilots suffer hypoxia-like symptoms in flight with many reporting feeling light-headed, weak and nauseous. Service officials have repeatedly grounded the F-22 fleet as the fifth generation fighter still flies under altitude and distance restrictions because of fears for pilots’ safety.

Air Force Maj. Gen. Charlie Lyon, Air Combat Command’s director of operations, Clinton Cragg, principal engineer at NASA’s Engineering and Safety Center, and retired Air Force Gen. Gregory Martin, head of Air Force Scientific Advisory Board study on the F-22’s problems, each testified before Congress on the steps the Air Force has taken to make the F-22 safer. Cragg joined the hearing because NASA, along with the Navy and Marine Corps, has aided the Air Force in its research.

Air Force leaders had declared that they have identified a the culprits causing the problems for pilots to include the breathing regulator/anti-g (BRAG) valve on the Combat Edge upper pressure garment. The Air Force is replacing the valve, installing a new back-up oxygen system and changing the oxygen schedule for the F-22’s onboard oxygen generation system (OBOGS).

Engineers and scientists had recommended the Air Force change the oxygen schedule for the OBOGS in 2005. The Air Force chose not to. The changes being made now are more comprehensive, Lyon said.

Martin also told Congress the Air Force should have installed a back up oxygen system. Original designs for the F-22 included the back up system, but they were scrapped in order to save weight.

“In retrospect, that was not an appropriate decision,” Martin said.

The Air Force expects to have the first back up oxygen systems installed by January and finish the install to the rest of the fleet by 2014.

At the beginning of the Air Force’s investigation into the F-22, officials suspected the breathing problems were caused by toxins getting into the cockpit. Cragg said his NASA scientists agreed with the Air Force’s conclusion that this was not the case.

Martin made a pitch during the hearing to Congress to re-invest in the Air Force’s human systems integration program. He said some of the problems found in the investigation of the F-22’s oxygen system could have been caught earlier. He blamed down sizing of the military in the 1990s.

“Flight medicine, aviation physiology, and research and development atrophied significantly in those years, at the time the airplane was going into a different environment,” Martin said. “All the people that would normally have done the testing and evaluation and all the things we do to learn about those environments were no longer in the military, no longer in our civilian workforce.”

— Bryant Jordan contributed to this report.

27 Comments on "AF admits F-22 mistakes to Congress"

  1. Luftwaffe Raptor Salad

  2. While the AF isn't blameless in this I could have sworn it was LM that built these planes not the USAF–let's put the blame where it belongs.

  3. "Martin also told Congress the Air Force should have installed a back up oxygen system. Original designs for the F-22 included the back up system, but they were scrapped in order to save weight."

    I recall a bunch of stuff was taken out of the F-35 to save weight. Was the back up OBOGS one of them?

  4. This is not a surpise. The USAF coverd the problem up from the start instaed of admitting a mistake and fixing it. They wanted congress to think the F-22 had no faults. Time for some house cleaning of corrupt Generals in the pentagon. Overall the cheap fix is to install the F-15s system to it.

  5. I remember seeing an earlier post by an expert who said the glue used to keep the stealth coating on is toxic. I wonder if the air force has investigated the hypoxia suffered by F-22 pilots from that angle. It makes sense because when glue is inhaled it can cause blackouts.

  6. So a good man, pilot died for 15 lbs. of O2 equipment whose weight doesn't matter; that stings! Gee, I hope they fix this debacle; soon!

  7. The force reduction argument is BS blame shifting.

    In war, and in peace time, you have to allocate your resources. This is their top of the line aircraft. The problem was identified about a decade years ago, and specific fixes recommended 7 years ago. The AF decided not to take the recommendations of their own consultants. pilots died, and AF went down/

    The AF brass made the wrong call. This is not "lack of resources", its bad leadership, with a side dose of cowardly failure to man up and accept responsibility.

  8. Sorry, "Aircraft went down"

  9. Generals lied, pilots died

  10. Death Traps ! Meanwhile the JSF will suck at least 38% of the US defense procurement budget over god knows how may years.

    Give me Europe's Typhoon and Rafale fleets any day .

  11. Yeah, see how fast the AF would act if 1 F22 did crash due to oxygen issue.
    Whole system is corrupt: defense contractors & top brass.
    So who aside the enemy benefits if some F22s do crash??

  12. Hmmmmmm…

  13. Well now that you have admitted mistakes, I want SOMEBODY TO PAY FOR them!!! When will we see one head roll for this mess? In the USAF, At the system maker, at Lock Mart?

  14. Cost cutting saves Money $$$$, NOT Lives – Airborne

  15. WW3 ignites and the F22's falls off the skies, tsk-tsk.

  16. I can see why the AIR FORCE seemed unconcerned they were'nt the one flying it.
    It would be a different story if it were one of their sons or daughters- now thats important!

  17. Given the lives put in danger – and the cost to the taxpayers for the training of the pilots – let alone the cost of the aircraft – the backup oxygen system should've been put in as soon as the problems were recognized.

    Otherwise – it's purely negligence.

  18. JUST FIX THE DAM THING….We're going to be needing that aircraft to stare down them dam Chi-coms….

  19. You see, here in lies the problem

    There is zero accountability for O-7 and above. When was the last time a general or admiral was relieved for cause-NEVER

    It's only O-5 and O-6's that get fired because once you put a star on your uniform you are a "made" man i.e. untouchable. Just like the mob-everyone below you takes the fall.

  20. According to Aviation Week, at the recent hearing, NASA engineers testified that the F-22 problems and Raptor cough was actually traced to TOO MUCH oxygen being supplied at lower altitudes. This forced nitrogen from the lungs and lead to collapse of avioli, leading to subsequent physiological problems that resembled hypoxia. At, higher altitudes, it was yet a different set of problems related to acceleration, and higher G loading.

  21. The Pentagon's biggest problem with the F-22 is their decision to buy just 187 jets as not enough money has been spent to develop the program like with jets in the past and the limited number of jets has caused the Pentagon to not having thoroughly tested the aircraft.

  22. Sounds like the typical downsizing budget cutting scenario. And in the long run how much more has this Jon not done right cost us?

  23. Did any of you read the final report? It wasn't the aircraft! It was the anti-G garment system. The BRAG valve was malfunctioning/set wrong such that the torso garment was not relieving pressure which prevented thorough lung ventilation. LM did not invent the vest, infact that was probably something that the ALSS folks provided.

    Oh and, there is no back up oxygen system per se on most tactical jets beyond the emergency O2 system in the ejection system. When the primary OBOGs or LOX systems fail, the EPs tell you to switch to emergency O2 (which is as I mentioned earlier is in the seat); dive for the deck and switch on emergency ECS scoop.

  24. America cannot afford the ongoing failure of the F-35 OR the F-22 program managers–civilian and military NOR either groups senior management. It would appear the only thing consistently driving these programs is greed and icompetence.
    The only results, so far, is failure. 'ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"—kill both programs and eliminate the growing cost of failure. The American taxpayer has had enough.

  25. The biggest mistake they made was ending production. Fix that damm thing, upgrade them, and build more.

  26. One word: Drones.
    They don't need oxygen. They can as much g-force as the airframe allows. If they get shot down, open another crate!

    F-22 costs $200mil, carries 16 missiles max internal and external. What's to stop a hostile nation with decent technological and manufacturing capabilities from sending up 18-19 drones at $10mil a copy, armed with AAMs, for every single F-22?

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