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PACOM contractor charged with sharing nuclear secrets with China

by Mike Hoffman on March 19, 2013

A former Army officer has been arrested and charged  in Hawaii for sharing nuclear secrets with a Chinese woman living in the U.S. on a visa, according to a report by a Hawaiian television station.

Benjamin Pierce Bishop, 59, is a defense contractor working at U.S. Pacific Command. He allegedly passed information relating to “nuclear weapons …  the planned deployment of U.S. strategic nuclear systems … the ability of the United States to detect low– and medium-range ballistic missiles of foreign governments, and … the deployment of U.S. early warning radar systems in the Pacific Rim,” according to court documents.

Bishop, 59, had a relationship with the Chinese woman, 27, which he hid from U.S. officials. He was arrested Friday at his office at U.S. Pacific Command. He was arrested without incident, according to the report.

Bishop was charged with “one count of willfully communicating national defense information to a person not entitled to receive such information and one count of unlawfully retaining documents related to the national defense,” according to KITV’s report. He faces a maximum sentence of 20 years in jail.

There were no further details in the affidavit about the content of the information Bishop allegedly shared with the woman, according to the report.

The arrest comes on the heels of the announcement by Defense Secretary Hagel that the U.S. will boost its missile defense system to protect U.S. borders.

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Nadnerbus March 19, 2013 at 1:54 am

Was that wrong? Should he have not done that?

"Bishop, 59, had a relationship with the Chinese woman, 27, which he hid from U.S. officials."

It's always the wrong head guiding these decisions.

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Teddy March 19, 2013 at 2:20 am
Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Am we supposed to believe that you are always reporting your relationships with women to the US government?

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Nadnerbus March 20, 2013 at 4:48 am

I think he meant more specifically a relationship with a foreign national, especially a citizen of a rising military power that has been spying for military secrets from the US like crazy.

If she was Mary Jane Rottencrotch from Sioux City Iowa, I doubt there would have been much concern.

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tmb2 March 20, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Anyone with access to classified materials is required by law to disclose relations with foreign nationals whether that be a girlfriend, wife, or blood relative.

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Musson March 19, 2013 at 8:40 am

Aw come on. She was just with him because he was 'so funny.'

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ArmyofAll March 19, 2013 at 5:18 pm

He should be sent to Gitmo and she should be sent to hell- The Contractor should have their clearance totally revoked- and the CEO arrested for treason and also sent to Gitmo

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Lulz March 19, 2013 at 5:35 pm

LOL – Send em all to GITMO!!

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KE Lowe March 19, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Nadnerbus March 20, 2013 at 4:52 am

What is up with the "send 'em to Gitmo" meme? Do any of you really advocate extra judicial punishment for American Citizens, regardless of the severity of the crime? If he is guilty of treason, which on the surface he probably is, he should be duly convicted and serve the appropriate sentence. He shouldn't be extradited outside of the sphere of US law so he can have all rights removed without due process. That is a loathsome strategy and should be abhorrent to anyone who believes in the rule of law.

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Doc jock March 22, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Doc jock March 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm
bruce March 19, 2013 at 8:35 pm

wonder if he is related to slick willie……..

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Guest March 19, 2013 at 8:40 pm

Federal A$$ Rapin Prison.

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Luis reach March 20, 2013 at 12:58 pm

Sure she was looking not only at a sugar daddy but also at Avery stupid man.

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drum@ptd.net March 24, 2013 at 6:37 pm

KILL HIM HE'S A %^$*#(@)) ((*&^ WASTE AT BEST

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Yeah March 19, 2013 at 2:50 am

Should have reported her to the officials. why? he was not having a relationship he was planning on giving secrets to Chinese. Hell with 20 years give him life.

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DAVE March 19, 2013 at 9:39 am

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY???? THIS IS OUT AND OUT TREASON! WE AS A NATION HAVE GOTTEN TOO COMPLACENT WITH WHOM IS GIVEN ACCESS TO OUR DEFENSE SYSTEM INFORMATION.

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Kim March 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm

SHOUTFEST!!!!

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 11:48 am

Look at the man's resume. It's easy to imagine how someone who puts in years of service to the government would be trusted with government information.

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USS ENTERPRISE March 19, 2013 at 9:33 pm

Yeah, no shout-fest from here. But yes, giving away ANY top secret info should result in a serious punishment. Whats more, these missiles are kinda important. Knocking out nukes on missiles might be a capability the US may need to have, especially after all this hulla-bullo about NK and Iran.

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JDC March 21, 2013 at 11:06 am

20 years my hiney. This is high treason and should be punishable by death, peacetime or not!

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art vandaly March 26, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Try him and then execute him for espionage. Let's get it over with. Oh and by the way lets make sure we stop his retirement pay.

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Restore Palestine March 26, 2013 at 3:57 pm

Try him and execute him? Even if the jury acquits? You sound like you would poison the jury, commit prosecutorial misconduct and murder the guy on fabricated charges. You don't give a damn about another person's life regardless of guilt or innocence. Did you learn that from the FBI or the CIA?

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William_C1 March 19, 2013 at 2:54 am

When your girlfriend starts a detailed discussion about the deployment of strategic nuclear weaponry and ballistic missile defense systems, something might be a bit off.

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Nick T. March 19, 2013 at 10:02 am

Especially if the guy knows she is Chinese.

Anyway, do we know what happened to the woman? Has she been detained or what?

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blight_ March 19, 2013 at 10:16 am

Probably disappeared into the Chinese embassy. She'll get new papers, change her appearance and take a commercial flight out to Beijing.

Mission accomplished?

As an officer his punishment must be proportionally magnified compared to the actions of an enlisted man who commits treason. If Manning is imprisoned for life, then this man must be shot.

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Musson March 19, 2013 at 10:30 am

Yeah. But – who listens when a woman drones on and on?

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Brandon March 19, 2013 at 12:25 pm

ha ha

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Lowe March 19, 2013 at 6:07 pm
@standfree4ever March 19, 2013 at 7:32 pm

She was only asking about the missile in my pants.

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whatever March 24, 2013 at 10:54 pm

and the engineer was talking about the technologies applied to support the missile in your pants, huh.

must have been some really god damn good and profitable technology

how long have you had ED with the missile in your pants?

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guest March 19, 2013 at 7:32 pm

She really loved him….she was just interested in his work and wanted to get closer……bahah hahaha

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JVJ March 20, 2013 at 10:25 pm

Indeed. When your woman steps out of the kitchen, except to bring you a sandwich and a cold beer, be very weary, it may lead to espionage charges, and pound-you-in-the-ass federal prison.

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 11:32 pm

Is this ****-for-brain moron William_C1 hallucinating again? Nowhere in the article does it mention the engineer's girlfriend starting a detailed discussion about anything. And for this piece of BS post he gets 93 thumbs-up's? HaHa. Something stinks like a rat here.

Wanna create your own version of the story for trial here? Nice script for recommending your own BS posts.

What a brainless punk.

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USS ENTERPRISE March 24, 2013 at 11:26 pm

Brainless punk. I believe the saying goes "it takes one to know one".

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Davis March 19, 2013 at 2:56 am

Reported or not, Bishop, an older man with nuclear secrets, didn't find it suspicious that a much younger national of an enemy government (YES enemy – no typo there), would out-of-the-blue want to have a relationship with him?

Oh, and because I'm shameless, can we get a photo of the Chinese women he was seeing to find out whether she was worth spending up to 20 years in jail for?

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guest March 19, 2013 at 5:38 pm

that's awesome! honest, direct, and soooo correct! :-D

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TheProIsraelLobby March 20, 2013 at 11:34 am

Restore Palestine, you should take note that YOU need to learn better English grammar and syntax before you write BS on this website.

^ It'll make you sound more credible and less like a douche.

BTW GO ISRAEL!!!! Keepin' Palestinians in their place since 1948!!!!

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Davis March 21, 2013 at 6:45 am

ProIsraelLobby just let Restore Palestine talk. No matter what he says it won't change the fact that you actually have a recognized country and all Palestine has is a few strips of land Israel gave to them out of pity. Oh, and Restore Palestine you are the last person on Earth who should preach about brutalizing helpless people. What has Palestine given to this world other than terrorists and a record number of suicide bombers? Quit being a troll; this site is for intelligent people to give their opinions on emerging military technology, not to argue about politics and grammar and syntax.

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Davis March 21, 2013 at 4:33 pm

Calm down Restore Palestine, I am grateful you are here. Not for what you believe to be "shock treatment" but for your great comedic relief on a site that is usually very serious. And I know the Israelis are grateful for the Palestinian people as well. For decades, the Palestinians have served as great moving targets for the Israeli Army to practice their marksmanship on. I think we all owe you a debt of gratitude Restore Palestine. Please don't ever stop trollin' this website.

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USS ENTERPRISE March 21, 2013 at 6:52 pm

Yeah, whatever. Its kinda funny poking at your ideals, as they are easy to pick out and disprove. As for brainwashing, I would suggest reference North Korea, the Taliban, and you. Oh, and if you were calm, then you wouldn't be coming to this site simply to "insult" people into submission. Your racist, fascist, violent views are hardly helpful or useful. So CALM down. Kudos to Davis. Backing you up.

Jonathan March 20, 2013 at 1:01 pm

Yeah I want to see a picture too, actually I want to see pictures of both of them, just to see if he was getting taken.

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Privateer_USA March 23, 2013 at 5:15 am

Funny, but true.

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Tri-ring March 19, 2013 at 3:20 am

It's obviously a honey trap, how else would a guy at the age of 59 get a girl at the age of 27 unless he was loaded.

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Bill March 20, 2013 at 11:04 am

Doing the horizontal mambo an old bugger 59 male with a 27 year old girl he's lucky he didn't get warped up with catch a predator TV show also.

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riceball March 20, 2013 at 1:51 pm

Maybe he was hung like Ron Jeremy.

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JVJ March 20, 2013 at 10:27 pm

Actually, the Feds did him a favor. Having sex with such a young firecracker could have given him a heart attack.

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oblatt March 19, 2013 at 3:57 am

Army officer sells his country out to become a contractor and then its hardly surprising that he sells his country out again to the Chinese. No doubt most contractors would do the same if they had the chance.

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William_C1 March 19, 2013 at 5:40 am

Do you even have a job?

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Lowe March 19, 2013 at 6:09 pm
romeo March 19, 2013 at 7:34 am

Let me guess…you try to be a contractor but you never finished high school, right?
Oh, right, you got kicked out the military cause you cause you are special…So now you are hating on contractor making good money. lol
sad…

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oblatt March 19, 2013 at 12:41 pm

Sorry sounds a lot closer to your milieu then mine.

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Ajax March 19, 2013 at 7:55 pm

I'm a contractor and I'm entirely loyal to the USA. Go suck on those sour grapes of yours elsewhere.

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southernkid March 20, 2013 at 11:25 am

A-MAN brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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pat March 22, 2013 at 11:18 pm

Sells out his country to become a contractor? Most contractors would do the same if they had the chance? Who the hell are you to say that? You have zero idea how things work and obviously zero understanding of the military; get a clue and apologies for generalizing that patriotic americans who work as contractors are somehow all spies…you suck!

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respawnd March 25, 2013 at 3:44 pm

Spoken like true loser

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STemplar March 19, 2013 at 4:46 am

Hang him.

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William_C1 March 19, 2013 at 5:41 am

Let them hang Bradley Manning first. At least this guy didn't do it on purpose.

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d. kellogg March 19, 2013 at 8:10 am

Didn't do it on purpose?
Really?
I'm sure he was just making small talk with this little chinese trollop then.
Maybe she drugged him and waterboarded it out of him, but he saw it as kinky sex games?

According to yearly briefings every Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Airwarrior, and contractor receives, the senior person involved is expected, even mandated, that they will be the moral compass in determining that inappropriate relationships must be ended.
He chose to stay, he chose to give her that information.
He DID do it deliberately.
Planning for a golden retirement with his chinese whore bride behind the walls of the Middle Kingdom?

We need to go back to executing traitors, as a lesson that others don't do it.
He gets a slap on the wrist with a prison term and some low-to-medium security joint where the inmates get a disgusting level of comfortable living at taxpayers expense.
Put this guy in with maximum security bubbas looking for a new prison wife.

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Bill March 19, 2013 at 2:36 pm

??? – Manning's intentions were at least founded on moral grounds and was doing so without any reward; this shit-breed is following his dick and potential payout.

I'd buy him lumber and rope, and force him to build his gallows.

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Kim March 19, 2013 at 3:25 pm

What Manning did was not much different from what Ellsberg did with 'The Pentagon Papers' back in 1971: Exposing his government's lies about a war. It may be very hard for many to accept that their own government could do such a thing, and to some it is simply not possible. So better kill the messenger, goes an argument.

Surely the information Manning leaked by way of Wikileaks is not exactly supporting the US war effort, but there's a long way from that and to see it as a threat to national security. Just like with The Pentagon papers the leaked info was screened before being published, in order not to not jeopardize individuals mentioned.

To the argument that leaking info such as that mentioned above is helping the enemy (whoever the enemy of the day is) then so is – say – protesting the Vietnam War, the Irag invasion or even writing these very words.

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tmb2 March 19, 2013 at 4:45 pm

Manning didn't just grab one or two documents to expose a particular situation. He stole hundreds of thousands of classified DoD and DoS documents and diplomatic messages. You really think he read them all to decide which ones "exposed government lies?" He had no idea what he threw out there for the world to see. If a document he stole gets read by the enemy and leads to someone's death, that makes him an accessory to that death. He provided classified materials to anyone in the world who may want to read them. That isn't a threat to national security?

Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 9:28 pm

William_C1, I would rather hang you a billion times first.

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William_C1 March 25, 2013 at 3:56 am

Try it.

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Restore Palestine March 25, 2013 at 7:16 pm

How about posting your picture and address first, coward.

Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 10:09 am

You first, STemplar.

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maddawg77 March 20, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Chop his head off

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John Reilly March 20, 2013 at 8:49 pm

Hang him and her. Remember the Rosenbergs???

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Raptor7 March 25, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Hang him high!

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romeo March 19, 2013 at 7:28 am

you know "SEX" / "WOMEN" is always going to be the motive.
Especially with tiny women.
It's the most successful and ancient spy weapon. And man will always fall.
I bet you this white boy, which there is not doubt he's white, thought he was on top of the world. lol

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juliet March 19, 2013 at 9:47 am

Haha – Especially with tiny women.

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guest March 19, 2013 at 7:34 pm

what kind of man likes a woman with big boobs and a small V J J….well here he is…a man with a BIG MOUTH and a little dinker

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Dannyk March 19, 2013 at 9:24 am

"lol". Racist idiot.

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Dennis Barrett March 19, 2013 at 9:59 am

And the woman? Arrested for being a spy? No other story on that?

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tmb2 March 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm

She's probably long gone.

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 11:43 pm

Maybe it's a poorly fabricated charge. There was no woman, Chinese or American.

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Nadnerbus March 20, 2013 at 5:04 am

I understand you are anti-everything US. But what is the motive behind "fabricating" this? To turn a nation that is our primary trading partner into an enemy? Just to screw over this one guy? Is it really that hard for you to believe that China might employ the ancient art of spying to gain useful information, an art that EVERY country uses? (Even "Palestine!").

I actually respect contrarianism (did I just make up a word?), but everything you post smacks of dogmatic ideology, where you start out with the absolute axiom that the US is evil and work backwards from there, evidence not required. Do yourself a favor and open your eyes a little wider, and even more, your mind.

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 10:08 am

Wait. I am not anti-everything US. That's a false charge. The US government has fabricated false charges against many nations. Have forgotten the BS charge about WMDs in Iraq? Or 9-11 terrorists in Afghanistan? Or the Gulf of Tonkin incident against North Vietnam?

The US needs enemies, and hence wars, for its economy to function. One of the most important businesses of US has been manufacturing weapons and wars. Stealing money from other countries and American citizens through printing the FR note is another business.

The US government, through its various agencies, has fabricated false charges against and jailed many Americans. I don't expect you to admit it. What's the motive for framing people? Why not make that an exercise for yourself. You've lived long enough to think about such relatively simple problems in life, right?

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Isaac March 20, 2013 at 10:41 pm

She was most likely shot out back.

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blight_ March 19, 2013 at 10:12 am

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/benjamin-bishop/a/96a

Benjamin Bishop
U.S. Pacific Command
Camp H M Smith, Hawaii (Hawaiian Islands) Military

Senior Analyst
U.S. Pacific Command
May 2012 – Present (11 months)

JROC/JCIDS and Cybersecurity and Operational Energy
Lieutenant Colonel
U.S. Army
Government Agency; 10,001 employees; Military industry
February 2002 – May 2012 (10 years 4 months)

Special Forces
Strategic Planner
U.S. Pacific Command
May 2010 – April 2012 (2 years)

J5 Planner on Extended Deterrence
Mason
Aloha Shrine
2001 – 2012 (11 years)

Special Operations Planner
US Joint Forces Command
Government Agency; 1001-5000 employees; Defense & Space industry
April 2008 – February 2009 (11 months)

Special Operations Planner within Joint Enabling Capabilities Command

Naval War College
2003 – 2009

Case Western Reserve University – Weatherhead School of Management
MBA, Management Information Decision Systems
1974 – 1977

Groups and Associations:
American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, National Sojourners, Free & Accepted Masons

Honolulu Free Masons

Special Forces Veterans

U.S. Army Special Forces (Green Beret) Alumni

U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM)

USSOCOM Alumni

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Jonathan March 20, 2013 at 1:04 pm

Very impressive resume! It's a shame.

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guest March 20, 2013 at 1:04 pm

Looks to be a civil servant not a contractor

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P russell March 22, 2013 at 7:18 am

He is a mason that's the problem not that he was getting some slant eye Chinese nooky as Romeo was stating. His resume is better that our commander in chief the highess Obama .

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blight_ March 22, 2013 at 8:45 am

Why? Not like the Chinese are Masons too and part of some global Masonic conspiracy.

Unless…

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looselipsnukeships March 19, 2013 at 10:44 am

What kind of moron (who works in the defense industry) wouldn't assume a Chinese woman half his age was a spy given their track record in these matters?

Treason has one punishment

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Tyler March 19, 2013 at 12:39 pm

Agreed.

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guest March 19, 2013 at 11:52 am

The Soviets ran a successful espionage program against the US for decades yet as we now know they had no intention of taking on the West in a contest of arms. Can we say that about the Chinese with any confidence? Between cyber-espionage and the old fashion face to face sort, the US could lose whatever the Chinese start before we realize they've started and that we've lost. The US needs to reform its counter-espionage attitude by assuming there are far more traitors then we've seen in the past and to assume their are far more foreign nationals spying in one form or another for other governments. From these assumptions we should become far more aggressive in monitoring, investigating and punishing those we catch.

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Ron March 19, 2013 at 12:05 pm

A woman's private part is the most powerful weapon in the world, history be told empires as well as powerful men all fell cause of it.

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Kim March 19, 2013 at 3:27 pm

I know of some men, but which empires fell?

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Uncle Bill March 20, 2013 at 11:29 pm

Pick Systems.

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Prodozul March 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm

On the flip side the FBI just arrested a Chinese spy for having unlimited access to NASA's projects and stuff.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/watchdog-alert-fbi-

Best part was he had a one-way ticket to China when they got him.

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Jane March 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm

Men are so weak. All the Chinese, Russians and Israelis have to do is send a good looking woman, flash boobs and the stupid male reveals everything.

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BlackOwl18E March 19, 2013 at 1:03 pm

I find this comment offensive. You're implying that all men are the same. There have been incidents, believe it or not, when a woman who is a spy attempts to seduce a man for information and they don't give in. Those incidents aren't reported because they don't grab as much attention.

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GroUpFolks March 25, 2013 at 10:37 am

In this case "there's no fool like an old fool". Congratulations on being one of the minority who do not let his johnson dictate his life. You need to pass your great mental abilities on to your gender. Sorry but if the shoe fits?????

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Nadnerbus March 20, 2013 at 5:08 am

Eh, I'm a man, and I find a sad amount of truth to it. Obviously not total truth, but enough to be a trend. And it's not so much getting the guy sexually interested. It's getting his heart. If a woman can find her way inside a guy's emotional defenses and get him to fall for her, she can do untold damage, to him, or in this case (maybe?) his country.

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oblatt March 19, 2013 at 1:00 pm

>At least this guy didn't do it on purpose.

Because when every day you betray your nation as a corrupt contractor, handing over secrets to the Chinese just seems a natural.

>It's the most successful and ancient spy weapon. And man will always fall.

Sounds like you would do the same. Maybe if a north Korean nuke penetrated the US missile defense and wiped out a city because of the information the contractor handed over – you’d wipe the smirk off your face – but probably not.

No doubt the Chinese secret service knows what the KGB knew that contractors are the easiest target. As Gordievsky says in the history of the KGB the contractors unlike other organizations – all had a price – and usually it was surprisingly low.

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defense_contractor March 20, 2013 at 9:38 am

I am a defense contractor and take offense in your personal assessment of our loyalty to our nation. Many defense contractors are ex-military, so you don't have a monopoly on military service and dedication.

It appears that you are a wanabee defense contarctor that was rejected, that is you didn't make the cut!!!

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 9:56 am

What a laugh. A defense contractor is a business entity, not a person. I don't suppose your business has installed Artificial Intelligence programs that monitor the web for criticisms of the filthy greedy defense contractors.

Shut down the computer and go clean the toilets.

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Mikey March 19, 2013 at 1:48 pm

I can't help but think that if the U.S. would start shooting these traitors instead of jailing them. I'd bet that they would at least think twice before giving up our country. Shoot the SOB

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drum@ptd.net March 24, 2013 at 6:39 pm

no doubt

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Terry March 25, 2013 at 9:55 am

Spot on!

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Lance March 19, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Not surprised lonely American men make easy targets. its China's new ultra new weapon: hot Sexy Asian women!!! Idea is make make the USA 1/2 Chinese by 2050! Joke….

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Yeah March 19, 2013 at 2:06 pm

wonder why he was targeted look at the linkedin post. be smart people and not tell your life. Its not a secret but you are just making yourself a target.

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d. kellogg March 19, 2013 at 7:50 pm

Yup,
and part of various Army awareness programs we received every year was to do exactly opposite what he did: do NOT broadcast yourself to the point you become the mark (targetted individual) of foreign interests looking to undermine the US.
You absolutely do NOT post up all that stuff about yourself, ESPECIALLY if you have the kind of sensitive information access this nut did.

Maybe he can use the Petreaus Ego Defense, believing "as important as I am, I SHOULD BE allowed to get away with it."

Or maybe it's all one big plausible deniability hoax to garner more support for even more big budget defense contracts now needed to undo the potential damage this guy caused.
More money for missile defense now!
More money for cyber warfare now!
More money needed to study methods our leaders can use to actually get away with it next time!

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majr0d March 19, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Great news! Bradley Manning will have a roomie.

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 7:05 pm

Shame on you.

Bradley Manning is a true American hero. You are nothing.

Before you yell "great news", learn to question the truthfulness of the claims and the credibility of the source. Didn't your parents teach you this when you were 8 or 9?

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majr0d March 19, 2013 at 9:44 pm

LOL, Yeah, I'll tell that to the VA nexct time I go. They only gave me 70% combat/service related related disability.

While we're on the subject, what exactly have you done?

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majr0d March 20, 2013 at 4:01 pm

I actually got medals for killing America's enemies :)

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Those were not America's enemies. They were victims of US military industrial complex and filthy, morally defunct US politicians and soldiers.

crackedlenses March 20, 2013 at 9:48 pm

Beautifully played, sir. ;)

Tweedle Dee March 19, 2013 at 4:33 pm

did she blab to the chinese or is this a case of just trying to crack down on leaks?

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Bob Harper March 19, 2013 at 5:25 pm

I'm 73. Do you think I could get one of those 27 year olds if I told Secrets ?

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Do you have 73 million to give away? or secrets of similar value.

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Manuel Sanchez March 19, 2013 at 5:43 pm

This offense is a National Security Violation, consequences well know by the general populatuion as equal to treason for release of Top Secret Information, and should be dealt with swiftly by execution. I agree, this person should be shot to death. The could mean a re-living of " Pearl Harbor ". A Vietnam Veteran.

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Cav Vet March 19, 2013 at 5:44 pm

I'm sure we know that a lot of men can be persuaded by women. I am certain that we use the same tactics against our enemies. Our intelligence agencies know that Chinese and other foreign men are very attracted to American women and use them to get information/secrets that we want. Tit for Tat!!!

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Jim Voelkl March 19, 2013 at 5:48 pm

Give him the same punishment the Chinese would give one of their own for committing the same offense.

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Jack March 19, 2013 at 6:00 pm

Why aren't people like this being charged with treason any more?

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 7:02 pm

Sounds like the US government is trying to frame the 59 y.o. engineer with entrapment and fabricated charges.

I'll bet there are tens of thousands of young Chinese women in America. And brainless freaks on this board would label every one of them a Chinese spy.

To me, it's perfectly normal for an experienced engineer to recite his knowledge or accomplishments to his wife or girl-friend. In fact, I'll bet that ALL of the good-at-nothing US hypocrites on this board would even make up some stories to impress their girl-friends.

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Simple Man March 19, 2013 at 8:07 pm

especially tracking and positioning and targeting intel. Let the law take its course, but in the meantime, we must be aware that our adversaries are doing their best to steal whatever they can.

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ibsteve2u March 20, 2013 at 4:51 pm

Seems to me – judging by both the quantity and content of your posts – that you have a vested interest in insuring that the government of the United States of America cannot and/or does not prosecute spies.

Which makes a reader – or at least this reader – curious as to the amount of access you have to America's or any other nation's/organized group's sensitive material.

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 9:04 pm

What's your evidence for claiming that the 59 y.o. engineer is a spy?

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 11:47 am

Gonna take a moment to be devil's advocate here.

What advantage does the United States gain in claiming someone is a spy? For instance, what if Bradley Manning wasn't a spy? What if the entire Wikileaks is made up? Why even trust the news? It's all Illuminati/Space Aliens/Rothschild if you build up enough shadowy links.

Where people draw their lines between truth and reality is really up to them. You can either elect to trust that the government is probabilistically telling the truth about Bradley Manning but not this analyst, or that both are lies, or that the analyst is a spy and Manning did not do what he says/confesses that he did.

With enough conspiracy-minded thinking one could think Assange is some kind of deep CIA asset.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm

The same advantage that the US tries to gain in accusing other countries of being "non-democratic" and so on, so forth. It's getting old but the schemers are either too old or too dumb to get it.

America's lame strategy has been criticized by many head of states and diplomats from Asia and Europe, notably by current or former leaders of Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, India, China, Russia, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.

WPG March 19, 2013 at 7:09 pm

I don't know wether to laugh or cry

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Fred March 19, 2013 at 7:16 pm

Twenty years, my ass, give him death. Mr Bishop is a traitor. This would set an example for anyone who tried this

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 7:27 pm

Ha! Not even the slightest doubt about the truthfulness of the claims in the story. If it's a charge by the government, it must be "true", right?

What a simpleton!

Any wonder why your country is going down the toilet so fast. Too many gullible, uneducated overgrown kids.

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Jim March 19, 2013 at 7:17 pm

Hang them both – treason, were they politicians

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 7:15 pm

How old are you? You sound like 6 or 7, with an IQ of the same magnitude.

But thanks for providing additional evidence to support my well-grounded assertion that Americans as a group are the most naive, and easily manipulated bunch in the world.

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Jonathan March 20, 2013 at 1:13 pm

"Americans as a group are the most naive, and easily manipulated bunch in the world"

Um what about the North Koreans?

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 2:52 pm

I think the North Koreans are suffering because of US military threats, open hostility / aggression, constant meddling and manipulations.

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crackedlenses March 21, 2013 at 2:51 am

Now, now, the Norks are starving and torturing their own just fine without our help. Do be reasonable (smrk)…..

Simple Man March 19, 2013 at 8:05 pm

Hey GI! Me love you long time!

I hate to say it, but polygraphs should be standard on any classified work being done by 1st or even 2nd generation foreign nationals from potential adversaries.

Just like our intel services, our counterintelligence services are ossified and sclerotic. Maybe understaffed? I don't know. But when the alarm bells are going off about Chinese political, trade, and military espionage and the massive hacking of our networks, we really need to look at what we are doing and how and why.

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William C. LeFay March 19, 2013 at 8:11 pm

Bishop's acts are Treason,if proven and he is convicted! Should that be the case, the Death Penalty is demanded by this citizen and veteran of this United States. Damn the "Do Gooders" and their ilk who would suggest otherwise.

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sarge March 19, 2013 at 8:29 pm

and why hasnt this guy been charged with treason. and once found guilty taken out and shot.

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ibsteve2u March 19, 2013 at 8:44 pm

The irony is all you have to do is become a CEO of an American corporation and you can give the PRC all of the American technology and know-how you want to in the name of profit – and that goes double if you destroy American jobs and the tax base it takes to fund our military in the process.

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ibsteve2u March 19, 2013 at 8:52 pm

The irony is all you have to do is become CEO of a major corporation and you can give the PRC all of the American technology and know-how you want in the name of profit – and that goes double if you destroy American jobs and the tax base it takes to fund our military in the process.

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 11:52 pm

Considering how much money the US government is stealing from China by printing worthless dollars day and night, the US would still come out ahead if it gives all its technology to China. Besides, most of the so-called "US technology" isn't worth a damn (military or otherwise) after taking its negative environmental impacts into account.

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Jonathan March 20, 2013 at 1:27 pm

"negative environmental impacts" It's military technology it does what it's supposed to do. You're judging it on it's ability to hug trees? I guess that makes sense coming from someone who want to "Restore Palestine" a country which never existed.

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Mikee56 March 19, 2013 at 9:04 pm

Just goes to show you what the caliber of the Dod personnel has degraded to. I say put him in front of a firing squad and let it be known that treason will not be tolerated !

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 11:22 pm

not anywhere as low as you have, brainless punk.

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Jonathan March 20, 2013 at 1:25 pm

"Brainless punk" Bit of a bestial remark don't you think?

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wally March 19, 2013 at 9:15 pm

This is bull. Bring back the old Army how would have this guys butt against the wall and the firing squad doing a lock and load.

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 11:23 pm

I'd like to see you burned alive on a cross.

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Jonathan March 20, 2013 at 1:23 pm

Mohamedist.

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 4:47 pm

Who crucified Jesus Christ again?

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crackedlenses March 21, 2013 at 2:56 am

Nazi. (If you don't get this reference, you are a historical dweeb.)

blight_ March 21, 2013 at 11:49 am

No, they wouldn't.

The United States hasn't executed people for espionage for a long time, and the last deserter executed was in WW2. Soldiers were executed for murder, but only for killing Americans.

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Bob March 19, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Marine Corps Vet March 19, 2013 at 10:13 pm

Yes, he is a " TRAITOR ", and what he done is known as " TREASON ". It is punishable by " DEATH BY A FIRING SQUAD ". If he is found " GUILTY " then they should carry it out to the fullest extent. Let the " GOVERNMENT " show the ones who do these despicable crimes against " OUR COUNTRY ", that " WE WILL NOT " tolerate here in the " UNITED STATES of AMERICA ".

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 11:41 pm

You didn't take your pills on time, did you?

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Jerome March 19, 2013 at 10:25 pm

He is only accused at this time right? No judicial process, just shoot him and be done with it? Glad you guys and gals are on the internet and not a jury box. Shame on you. This could be a set-up for all you know.

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 11:10 pm

Exactly right.

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Bill March 20, 2013 at 12:54 am
bob March 20, 2013 at 2:50 am

Fucking execute this bastard. Firing squad now.

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Locaber March 20, 2013 at 8:13 am

What happened to the good old days when providing national defence information to an enemy during a time of war was considered Treason and was punishable by death. we are still at war i believe. in Afganistan.

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Leoncefalo March 20, 2013 at 1:19 pm

There are a lot of racist comments here. . .but 'sleeping with the enemy' is a punishable crime. . .nuclear secrets much more so. . . .these traitors who think with their 'small head' need to be publicly exposed and sentenced to LONG terms in prison. . . .it is an open secret that the Chinese will do anything and everything to obtain American military and corporate secrets. . . .but this kind of behavior cannot be detected when it remains hidden. . .to put it bluntly. . .a STIFF DICK has . . .NO conscience. . . .so think TWICE before putting it,and with whom.

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Montego March 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm
Cyclopps March 20, 2013 at 2:19 pm
usa March 20, 2013 at 2:50 pm

maby if the U.S would start to kill people that do stuff like this maby just a thought maby they would think twice about telling sensitive secrets. this is the type of stuff that can put our national security at risk. just one person like him can cause that to happen. kill the SOB

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Emory Golden March 20, 2013 at 3:42 pm

This SOB, give me the guillotine I'll be the executioner; Prison is to good for him, 20 years is not enough, life @ the edge of a precipice is more suitable for his serious crime against our U.S.A.. Race as nothing to do with this Benedict Arnold, evil can enter in anyone. ( demon incarnate from Hell, whisper's in gullible ears ).

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Perry March 20, 2013 at 5:02 pm

I think this guy did not read a spy news in the last 10 years. All he has to do is inform his boss then feed all the wrong info to the young chinesse spy while getting a piece then get medal of something at the end.

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Adam Majkowski March 20, 2013 at 8:23 pm

Since "defense" to americans means attacking everything and everyone in sight, other countries need to know what our criminal military is up to, to prepare actual defenses for our planet.

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candor March 20, 2013 at 10:07 pm

nooky nooky for nu-key nu-key

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dustime8 March 20, 2013 at 11:43 pm

This type of crime is worth the death penalty.

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USA March 21, 2013 at 11:29 am

kill the SOB. he is putting our ENTIRE national security at risk. i belive stuff like this should be punishable by death

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Zeeman March 21, 2013 at 2:28 pm

You guys have it all wrong. She was helping him write an autobiography of his heroic days in Special Ops. It was going to be titled "All Over."

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Tom March 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm

Can't we please execute him!

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CRC March 21, 2013 at 11:32 pm

Traitors are and should be place in front of a firing squad and give them the honor of possessing all available lead. That's what this stinky needs. DVA is supposed to take his check away.

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Papi1960R March 22, 2013 at 3:16 am

It goes both ways. I was part of a 16 man detail assigned the mission of getting to know Thays and Sandra Noriega, the daughters of General Manuel Noriega in Panama 1987-88. We reported directly to General Bernard Loeffke. We were all younger 18 series NCOs. The initial personel request asked for Spanish speakers with Salsa dancing ability.
Thays and Sandra loved to lose their DENI security team and frequent the bars of the Belle Vista area as well as the Marriot Continential Hotel & Casino. I got to know Sandra very well and spent many nights in Panama's famous "Love" hotels "pumping" her for information. No real intel came of it but I worked really hard on the task. In the Winter of 88 President Bush decided that General Loeffke had become to chummy with a young Panamanian woman himself, so he was gone as were all of his programs. Everyone involved all got orders back to CONUS.
Later at the US Embassy in Istanbul, we seemed to keep a stable of Blue eyed, Blonde, All-American Barbie dolls who seemed to always be in the company of very unsavory men from across the Middle East.

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blight_ March 24, 2013 at 8:05 pm

Go honeytrap.

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CMo March 23, 2013 at 8:01 pm

She'll only be 47 when he gets out! ;-)
but if he lives to 79 in there, she may have lost interest.

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Arturo Freeman March 24, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Arturo Freeman March 24, 2013 at 1:04 pm
GroUpFolks March 25, 2013 at 10:40 am

Bottom line, "there is not fool like an old fool". Shows that no matter how old, a man tends to let his "johnson" dictate is life. Unfortunately his ego costs a whole country of people their security. CONGRATULATIONS STUPID!!!! This is an act of treason and the death penalty is called for.

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GNBA July 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm

Does anyone know what company this loser worked for? Interesting there's no apparent media scrutiny on Bishop's employer like there has been on the Snowden Booz Allen case.

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blight_ July 1, 2013 at 6:22 pm

From his linkedin (see my link from weeks ago)

"Senior Analyst
U.S. Pacific Command
Government Agency; 1001-5000 employees; Military industry
May 2012 – Present (1 year 3 months)
JROC/JCIDS and Cybersecurity and Operational Energy
"

I'm guessing he retired, then rehired as an independent contractor.

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 5:17 pm

You don't even understand the meaning of the word "steal" but then if you are an American, chances are you are just a dropout-grade moron.

You should wish you had one tenth of Bradley Mannings' back bone and brains. To be fair to you, 90% of the posters on this board are brainless, morally-defunct, good-at-nothing punks.

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blight_ March 19, 2013 at 7:47 pm

The Pentagon Papers popped the lid on the fact that we were in Cambodia and Laos; which was previously unknown. I'd call that pretty big pie in the face.

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William_C1 March 20, 2013 at 4:54 am

Exactly. He is a coward and a traitor who wanted to remembered as some sort of hero by the American left.

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Kim March 20, 2013 at 5:43 pm

Of course Manning didn't read all the documents, but then he damn well didn't 'throw them out for the world to see' either: He turned them over to Wikileaks to screen, as you would have known if you a) read my message twice before hitting your keyboard, or b) had the least bit of insight concerning the Wikileaks case. Try reading newspapers; you'll be better informed that way.

Now a question; If a demonstration against US involvement in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan was encouraging Vietcong, Iraqui insurgents or The Mujahedin in their fight against US troops, does that make the people demonstrating an accessory to US soldiers' death?

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Chet Steddman March 19, 2013 at 5:44 pm

Please no one respond to Restore Palestine, not worth the time. The more she gets a rise out of people the more her comments litter these discussions….

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Apache64 March 19, 2013 at 6:15 pm

Gee Ric, Racist much? If I wrote the same type of things about Black people commiting crime, gang banging and killing each other off in the inner cities I would be blasted for being a hate mongering racist scumbag but I guess you feel it's okay for you to blast white paople and lump them all together. Hope you let all that hate fester inside you where it's sure to do a lot of good for you in life.

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Goofygeef March 20, 2013 at 2:00 am

What?

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top dog March 20, 2013 at 8:12 am

Nice try…..(RIC) is it?……..

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Dannyk March 20, 2013 at 9:17 am

You just wanna be white don't you

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J Wheeler March 29, 2013 at 6:24 pm

Ric,

I guess it's totally o.k. to be racist if you're not white. How far is that stick up your ass?

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Restore Palestine March 19, 2013 at 7:08 pm

HaHa, you brainless chicken ****. Did it occur to you that the charges may be false, or that the US government is trying frame the engineer?

Entrapment and fabricated charges are daily routines in America. You clueless sick ****.

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tmb2 March 20, 2013 at 12:27 am

Not disagreeing that the Pentagon Papers exposure was important. I'm just pointing out the fallacy that Manning is some heroic crusader. He pretty much went to Top Secret sites and grabbed everything he could get his hands on without having a clue or care about the contents.

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smackinmad March 20, 2013 at 5:50 pm

Exactly Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are guilty of war crimes.

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ibsteve2u March 20, 2013 at 7:23 pm

The "Congressional approval" argument only applies if Congress is not fed fabricated and/or distorted intelligence.

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 9:27 pm

How did you ****-for-brain moron get 87p for writing nothing but ignorant, misinformed rubbish posts?

Oh I forgot, you are in America.

Pathetic.

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tmb2 March 20, 2013 at 9:30 pm

I read what you wrote. It was irrelevant. It doesn't mean a bit of difference if he posted them all online himself or gave them to an organization designed to publicize whatever information it gets.

To answer your question: No, a protest in favor of the enemy doesn't make you an accessory to what they do. Providing anything material that helps the enemy does whether that be information, supplies, weapons, etc.

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Restore Palestine March 20, 2013 at 9:46 pm

HaHa. The US government is creating enemies by committing war crimes / atrocities against other countries INSIDE THEIR TERRITORIES.

It's every soldier's duty to expose war crimes and criminal activities of his own government and military leadership.

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majr0d March 20, 2013 at 11:13 pm

Invent Palestine- We had other names for them but whatever floats your boat.

cracked – :)

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 12:00 am

HaHa. The military industrial complex has played you and him beautifully. And you don't even have a clue.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 12:05 am

You risk your life for a janitor's pay, get injured for a small useless piece of metal, and the military industrial complex pocket billions and billions in the process.

What a bargain for you, eh? HaHa.

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tmb2 March 21, 2013 at 12:17 am

It's every soldier's job to prevent war crimes and criminal activities and report allegations to the proper authorities, not call a bunch of newspapers offering stolen information hoping one of them will do it for you. If he was really out to right the wrongs in the world, he should have reported the crimes he thought he saw to his superiors and if he absolutely in his heart had to steal and expose the data he should have uploaded it and immediately turned himself in and faced his punishment. He is guilty of stealing and sharing classified data. All other charges are still in the court.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 12:29 am

HaHa. "Proper authorities"? In America? HaHaHa

The US government itself has been the perpetrator of war crimes!

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SFC C+11 March 21, 2013 at 6:37 am

I remember him, he was a U.S. Marine Sergeant, at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. Got himself caught in a SOVIET honeytrap, passing classified information that the KGB got!
HE WAS AN INDIAN (Native American)

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 9:44 am

Hm, a honeytrap.

I'm sure someone will claim this was another false flag setup on an expendable Marine guard.

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

If he thought he saw war crimes, he would've gone to the ICC instead of Julian Assange.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 11:46 am

That's not evidence. That's accusations made by the US government on a govt website. The US govt has absolutely no credibility.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 11:49 am

If the ICC were any good, GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, and ALL senior US military officers involved in Iraq and Afghanistan would have been arrested, charged, convicted, and executed.

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 12:06 pm

Sure; it's a cudgel for punishing people of the lesser nations. Good enough for Saddam and Milosevic, but not people at the highest levels of power in the United States or any other Security Council nation.

To that end, how is leaking to Assange any better? It's pretty obvious that nobody was really in any position to "get back" at politicians at the top, and that leaking information isn't much of an instrument of retribution.

If he had elected to be conscientious, the appropriate avenue would've been "through official channels", and before the army takes away your security clearance, you send information to the ICC, and perhaps someone with instructions to take it to the media if the ICC gets squelched.

I'm sure people have already tried to charge Bush Jr with war crimes, even without confirmatory information provided by Wikileaks. But if it isn't about war crimes, then what is it about?

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ibsteve2u March 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm

I'd note that I have experience with both security clearances and the handling of classified materiel – thus I know that the number of classified documents found in Bishop's residence alone is a) criminal and b) justification for assuming guilt unless you can prove the individual is a klutz and a fool but otherwise innocent.

I doubt that the government will be too specific about the particulars of this case, but one of the easiest ways to identify spies is through the discovery that an enemy entity is in possession of information or materiel that you have classified; after that, it becomes a simple matter of identifying who had both access to those secrets and a means of conveying them into the hands of the enemy.

Then you can begin planting information/materiel whose distribution/access is limited to the individuals that you are interested in; when and if that information shows up in the hands of the enemy, you've got your mole…and incontestable proof of treason.

Treason is a serious charge and not one the government would make lightly particularly given the nation's recent history of high-level treason-for-political/financial-purposes. Only a fool would assume that the operatives of the investigative agencies – for the purposes of this comment, I'll assume it ends in an "i" or an "a" – on this case are universally political puppets.

There are some hardcore patriots in those agencies, and they're loyal to a nation of laws rather than an elected or appointed politician. Falsely charging someone with treason would require that each and every American in those agencies be a political puppet or eventually the story would out and the repercussions would be…severe. That scenario is beyond credibility; perhaps more reliably, the individuals who hold positions of power due to politics are too smart to risk their careers – their lives – on a web of deception that would inevitably fail.

If a charge of treason is made, you can take the assumption that it was made with sufficient evidence to prove it to the bank.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 12:30 pm

There is no doubt that the Wikileak route is better because it has actually achieved the desired goal and effect. The world now has a far better, clearer picture of the hypocritical and criminal US government and military.

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

Faster turnaround than the Pentagon Papers, I suppose. Those were leaked in 1971 and covered events from the '50s-'60s. Manning's leak was a little…fresher.

So at this point we concede that Manning's leak really had nothing to do with the classical bring-bush-to-justice, but is more about kicking secret information into the light.

I think it would be a perfect way to…/justify/ unpleasantries just by using Wikileaks. For instance, put some cables about Gaddafi in there for Manning to find and leak.

From a practical standpoint; the gains from leaking seem more informational than moral.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

I'll repeat, the US govt has no credibility. Those "hardcore patriots" in various agencies are nothing more than brainless radicals, runaway secret police or domestic terrorists.

In short, claims of US govt is not evidence. It's not like fabricated charges, entrapment and framing are alien to US agencies.

Finally, the US is NOT a nation of rule of law.

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ibsteve2u March 21, 2013 at 1:22 pm

More to the point, you've demanded over and over again that "proof" be shown of Bishop's treason.

Which is contradictory to your own willingness to state that everybody in the nation's law enforcement and intelligence agencies "are nothing more than brainless radicals, runaway secret police or domestic terrorists" without offering a shred of proof.

lolll…you condemn tens of thousands of Americans with no proof, at all.

I'd note that the labels "right" and "left", "democracy" and "communism" are arbitrary; any system of government will work as long as it makes the interests of "the people" its priority. But as soon as a system of government falls into the hands of a totalitarian – an individual who is willing to condemn tens of thousands without requiring proof solely on the basis of such artificial designations as religion, ideology, profession, way of thinking, amount of wealth possessed, what have you – that system of government changes from being a tool used by the people into a weapon used against the people.

Stalin was such a totalitarian; Bush and Cheney are; and – amusingly – so are you.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 1:26 pm

HaHa. Wrong on all counts. In Psychology, projection is a reaction conditioned by acute, repeated, or prolonged experience. That means there must have been prior instances of what is being projected.

If you claim that the statement "the US government has no credibility" is a projection, you are in fact admitting that the US government has previously been shown to have no credibility. And it's actually true.

BTW, we are not talking about "everybody", just the US government as a whole.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 2:04 pm

Nope. You mis-applied "projection" in the first place. I am not a "government" or "government agency" or "government employee". And I don't see what faulty information is in the way of my judgments.

With so many wars started on false pretenses by the US government, and so many lawless, abusive prosecutorial and judicial conduct , the support for my credibility determination against the US government is overwhelming.

You have admitted GW Bush and Dick Cheney being totalitarians yourself.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm

meant to say "… and so many INSTANCES OF lawless, abusive prosecutorial and judicial conduct in FEDERAL COURTS, …"

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ibsteve2u March 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm

Nope. You mis-applied "projection" in the first place.

You have an unusual facility for reinterpreting reality in order to force it to conform to your worldview.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm

There is no proof of Bishop's treason yet. I understand that you have already decided his guilt based on some articles. But opinions and claims are no proof.

Am I wrong?

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm

I'll repeat: With so many wars started on false pretenses by the US government, and so many instances of lawless, abusive prosecutorial and judicial conduct in federal courts, the support for my credibility determination against the US government is overwhelming.

There is nothing unusual or new about my view, nor is there any reinterpretation. The US government has no credibility because of what it has done repeatedly in the past. It's as simple as that.

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majr0d March 21, 2013 at 2:39 pm

It's called the service for a reason. You don't do it for the money.

Implying differently is a feeble attempt on your part to win some kind of victory. It's kind of like Arab Israeli wars. You don't even realize your sitting in a smoking crater.

Keep talking dude. You're your own worst enemy.

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Restore Palestine March 21, 2013 at 2:46 pm

Since when has illegally invading other countries and killing innocent civilians become "service for a reason" ?

Feel free to work for free. Enlist for another tour and get killed. In due time, you will enter history books as an accessory to war crime. The more medals you collect, the worse the crime you are committing against humanity.

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blight_ March 21, 2013 at 10:57 pm

We'll have to wait and see then.

Noshir Gowadia was convicted of selling B-2 info to China. What are your thoughts on that case?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2645205
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noshir_Gowadia

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majr0d March 22, 2013 at 6:26 pm

Dude, when you're standing in a grave, stop digging. We all know you're a troll. There's no need to prove it more.

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Privateer_USA March 23, 2013 at 5:20 am

Restore Palestine,what the hell does this BULL$HIT got to do with this story?

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Guest March 26, 2013 at 10:17 am

ALCON,

Recommend simply clicking the 'Report' button on the terrorist thug 'Restore Palestine'. Reasons for reporting include: inappropriate comments, terrorist threats (refer to previous comments on 'bombs'), and other reasons. Thumbs down votes also are appropriate.

Can't really 'blame' her though, when you're raised in a culture of violence and hate, then what else do you expect from a troll such as her?

Of course, I'm assuming it's a her since she's doing a lot of whining here….

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USS ENTERPRISE March 24, 2013 at 7:48 pm

Harsh. But the truth is spoken. I am sure though that the Pentagon has changed the location of the missile defensive systems, I mean surely. Honestly, we need a true veteran as president, not some politician that knows war by stories.

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pete March 24, 2013 at 10:46 pm

I wouldn't believe that story. I guess Gowadia might have a little incentive to sell secrets to India. I would not give any credence to the claim that he had sold any important technology to China, and for so little money.

I agree with poster "Restore Palestine" on the lack of credibility of the US government.

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crackedlenses March 25, 2013 at 3:08 am

"notably by current or former leaders of Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, India, China, Russia, Vietnam, Thailand, etc."

Actually, Americans don't really give a @#$% what these other countries think. The US is made up of people who apparently thought the US was a better country to live in than any of these other places.

Throwing their names out doesn't really give your tirades any credibility.

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Restore Palestine March 25, 2013 at 7:11 pm

No, crackhead. In order to form an informed opinion about the best country to live, one would first have to know something about other countries. Americans are so dumb they don't even have a clue about their own country, which is going down the toilet as we speak.

Go back to snorting powders and leave the posting to the informed. Can you handle that, crackedhead?

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Restore Palestine March 25, 2013 at 7:15 pm

The Israeli soldiers hide in their tanks and fire at Palestinian kids with nothing more than rocks, and you call those kids "savage"?

You are one hell of a depraved, morally-defunct lowlife and scum, William_C1.

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ibsteve2u March 28, 2013 at 3:31 pm

One terrific/horrific difference: In the case of the USSR, the Kremlin wasn't simultaneously playing the greed of America's few like a Stradivarius…thus the Kremlin wasn't simultaneously harvesting America's industry/jobs…thus the Kremlin wasn't simultaneously harvesting America's technology/manufacturing expertise…thus the Kremlin wasn't simultaneously harvesting the ability to not only afford an arms race, but win that race.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/06/08/

The fact that we're going to lose the arms race with the PRC isn't a big secret, either…the big secret is the few in America who are benefiting financially from destroying America own so many Republicans (i.e., all of them) and enough Democrats (all of the "neoliberals" and "Blue Dogs" among the Democrats) that nothing can be done about it.

Every effort to protect the people by enforcing the law breaks down when the sheriff is a bought man.

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