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China Reports Stealth Drone’s First Test Flight

by Mike Hoffman on November 22, 2013

China DroneChinese state media is reporting the Chinese military completed its first test flight of their stealth drone that looks a  a lot like the U.S. Navy’s X-47B.

Named the “Sharp Sword,” the drone flew for 20 minutes and successfully completed the test over Chengdu.

“The successful flight shows the nation has again narrowed the air-power disparity between itself and Western nations,” state-run newspaper China Daily said in a statement on Friday.

Defense analysts have speculated that the drone is a reverse-engineered copy of Russia’s Mikoyan Skat unmanned aerial vehicle. Not much else is known about the capabilities of the jet-powered drone.

The Chinese also continue to test their two manned stealth fighters the J-20 and J-31. Few details are known about those stealth fighters as well.

In May, a video of the Sharp Sword taxiing down the runway spread across the internet. Chinese officials said then that they were close to being ready to executive the drones’ first test flight.

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Big Daddy November 22, 2013 at 11:47 am

Making one flight and being combat operational are two completely different things. Many of those systems are 10+ years away from being operational if at all.

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mpower6428 November 22, 2013 at 12:56 pm

Its a good thing the Chinese have us to do most preliminary testing for their exact copy of our system. I mean, its not like they're NOT going to see the data. only question is… will they see it before OUR techs do.

I wonder if there is a running joke about our wonder weapons over at Chinese military headquarters…? if so, Id love to hear it.

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ike November 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm

Really? We do lots of preliminary testing? I doubt it.

the Chinese have exact copies of our system? Really? Name one.

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ChrisB November 26, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Rest Pal November 28, 2013 at 2:53 am

Are you sure you actually understand the meaning of words like "exact" and "copy"? (No, you are not. Look up the words and try again.)

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Charles James Haas November 30, 2013 at 7:27 pm

AIM-9B Was only acquired because it was deposited in the fuselage of one of their MiGs during a scrimish with the Taiwanese in the 60s.

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EW3 November 23, 2013 at 12:28 am

Ike is right.
It may look superficially like a X-47 but it also needs engines, control systems and a few other things like a satcom and GPS system to support it. This is for internal consumption only.

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mpower6428 November 23, 2013 at 12:34 am

I hope you're right, I really do.

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Big-Dean November 23, 2013 at 1:29 am

and the USSR never copied (or stold) our stuff either, come on guys, wake up and smell the coffee

The Chinese do this for a living, look at the entire fake industry over there, everything from Rolex, to bicycles to drugs, it's massive. They steal, duplicate and make copies of everything.

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EW3 November 23, 2013 at 9:43 am

But a chinese copy of a Rolex is not a Rolex, it only looks like one.
The devil is ALWAYS in the details.

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Big-Dean November 23, 2013 at 7:07 pm

yes that's true EW3, but they are still watches and they still work do they not?
When an Chinese AK-47 fires a bullet at you, are you concerned that it is a "fake" knockoff copy of the Russian AK-47 or are you ducking for cover? Chinese weapons kill just as effectively as the "real Mckoy."

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EW3 November 24, 2013 at 1:01 am

Do they work? Yes. But for how long and with what precision? A Rolex is a true chronometer and will last for 20-30 years easily. Will the cheap imitation do the same?
The AK-47 proposition is meaningless. Even the Russian made AK-47 is not exactly a work of art. In combat the US made M-16/M-4 is a much better weapon. Ever see a scope on an AK-47?
We're talking about high tech stuff. The Chinese have shown nothing that makes me think this is an equivalent to an F-22.

steve November 27, 2013 at 4:17 pm

Only proves the Chinese have a direct access to all or most of Our Military secrets…Guess those that are supplying them with Our Military secrets are enjoying a rich life??? Nothing like a good old traitor is there???? And we still think ALL of our naturalized citizen love Our Country…..what a joke….just like Our WIDE-OPEN BORDERS!!!!! and now wide-open naturalization programs "no" really good back ground checks?????

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Dfens November 22, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Do you ever wonder what kind of weapons they have that they are not telling us about? I mean, in a supposedly "free" society like we like to say we have people can talk about seeing this or that in the sky without being shot. How much easier is it to keep a secret in a totalitarian suck hole like Communist Red China? But don't worry, because if you were supposed to worry a defense contractor would have told you so. Plus, when we can crank out new aircraft on a regular 30 year cycle like we do, what is there to worry about?

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boswell November 22, 2013 at 3:47 pm

I wonder what kind of weapons WE have that we aren't told about.

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ike November 22, 2013 at 5:21 pm

Here they are: the F-22 and the F-35. Have you been told that they simply don't work as advertized? Of course not. Glad I'm the first one.

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Dfens November 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Usually failures remain classified forever. Successes get out a lot more quickly.

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freeamerica December 5, 2013 at 7:51 pm

They simply do work as advertised. And they are better than everything else in the air.

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WarPony November 23, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Anytime we're told about a weapon system that will be IOC ten years out, most likely it's been operating for some time – space platforms, lasers, invisibility, Block 5 Comanches, etc. … as it should be.

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ID0 November 22, 2013 at 1:39 pm

Credible? Or just a rolling mock-up? Can't be much of a local secret based on the relative location?

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Hector Q November 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm

here's what I mean to post:

The Chinese stuff still seems to be junk, but I am somewhat concerned that the Chinese and us are moving in opposite directions with respect to our abilities to produce high-tech weapons systems. The trend with their stuff is that it's getting better. With us, the trend is that while we aim to build the very best, it seems that we're losing the ability to do so. We shoot so high, that we're not able to properly execute and we can't build stuff in a reaonable amount of time for a cost that isn't astronomical. Not a short- or even medium-term concern, but what will things be like in 30 years??

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Lance November 22, 2013 at 1:56 pm

SO what they copied another UAV or plane design. All China does is steal technology and designs for there own use. I would always relight on China state TV for info they lie and make crap up for there leaders to look BIG as far as we know its BIG flop and it take years to makes it work try not to jump into the sky is falling mentality some here usually do when they retell Chinese propaganda here.

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Lewis Smart November 22, 2013 at 4:44 pm

It's smart. Why reinvent the wheel when you can just look at how it's done already? Industries the world over, of all kinds, not just in China, make use of existing designs and concepts.

But you shouldn't assume that this is all the Chinese know how to do. In recent years Chinese firms have begun to make far more patent applications than they used to, reflecting an increase in original innovation. There's no reason why they can't catch up and why other nations might not be stealing from them one day. I'm not a sinophile, I'm just saying.. it's not so simple as the Chinese being born copycats.

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ike November 22, 2013 at 5:28 pm

There are far more important advantages. Think harder.

If I remember correctly, China has passed the US in # of patent filings a couple of years ago. Now China is the top patent filer and is projected to be filing more patent apps than the US and Japan combined in a few years.

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Sleeper November 23, 2013 at 5:00 am

Yes they did become the top patent filer, but filing a patent and getting it are two separate things. There have been criticism that they need to improve the quality of their patents if they want to lead in innovation. The Chinese state has given companies great incentives to file patents.

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IKnowIT November 23, 2013 at 5:52 pm

I work in an industry organization where the Chinese have been sending tons of people in the last few years. My observation is that a) they still take a "bigger numbers is better" approach. They try to file as many research papers as possible- and try to push through work all the time. BUT… most of the work is incoherent crap. I guess they think that if they do more, just by the odds eventually they will be in the lead.. And maybe they are right. But people are on to that approach and sort of look at them as being a bit silly- and push back on their work as such. Also, the Chinese get bonuses based on filing research papers- I bet it's the same with patents. And, both don't mean squat unless they actually contribute something knew to whatever field they are in. In summary, I am not impressed by the transparent way they try to dominate, or by thier personal level of skill of innovation. They may still dominate by numbers in the end, but it wont be as easy as before- people are on to them..

oblatt2 November 23, 2013 at 2:00 am

Copy and Improve. As one business man said recently the "Chinese want to become engineers and doctors, Americans want to be come reality show celebrities – that's why China is engineering the future and Americans are hoping for a surprise ending."

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ruger November 26, 2013 at 10:13 am

That was one of the most profound explanations I have read in awhile that explains where the US is right now. Thumbs up! yet very…
Very SAD!

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SJE November 26, 2013 at 11:20 am

Copied does not mean crappy. The US and Soviets copied missile technology from the Germans, jet engines and radar from the Germans and UK etc.

For a long time the West used to laugh at Japan merely copying everything from the West. The Russians stopped laughing in 1905, the Brits in 1940, US Military in 1941, and Detroit around 1980.

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Smith28 November 22, 2013 at 2:19 pm

The way I see it, is China's ability to reverse engineer other nations civilian and military technology will eventually bite them in the ass. When it comes to developing something from scratch they'll have no roots/foundation to look back to.

Unlike Western technology every technologically advancement has some sort of deep base root/foundation. So if there was need for a whole new system like there always is, we can look back at all past projects and use those past platforms and innvations to field better tech.

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ronaldo November 22, 2013 at 7:25 pm

Please, for the sake of clairity name one product that they have reverse engineered.

I'm waiting along with quite a few other engineers that work on this type of product and see a common approach to aero design.

If you are using the picture as an example of reverse engineering you have picked a bad one. The basic visuals of the aircraft are too much like both American and European UCLASS aircraft suggesting not a copy, but a common solution to a common military challenge.

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RJuarez23 November 22, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Frankly I'd like to see us intentionally build something that looks and acts awesome, "accidently" release it so the Chinese can reverse engineer it then when they show it off in front of the Premier, we press a button and it goes crashing down in a ball of flames right in the middle of Tienamin Square.

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ifDog November 22, 2013 at 4:00 pm

they might wonder why the drawings call for C-4…

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ike November 22, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Do you know why the Chinese never copied the F-16, the F-15, the Arleigh Berkes, the Ticons etc?

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IKnowIT November 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm

That's funny actually. But in reality, the Chinese have a huge inferiority complex and take it very personally when they are not in the lead. They can't understand how we (us uncultured, uneducated heathens) can be better than them- hard to explain, but they do feel culturally superior..

I some cases they might be right, and NOT that I don't think WE have big issues- but just giving perspective..

So, in the end, your strategy would probably work!

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IKnowIT November 23, 2013 at 5:59 pm

I should add a story- In grad school (a good school) I got on a team with a bunch of Indians and Chinese.. They where sort of worried (well, pretty damn worried) about a "white guy" pulling their team down.. But when I did more and better than they did, leading to better grades- I think felt REALLY bad about themselves.. like shamed.. Not sure that gives any more color to the cultural thing, but…

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HeavyArrow November 22, 2013 at 6:36 pm

Looks more like the Dassault nEUROn UCAS than anything else, judging by the angles that we see.

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DefenseTechGuest November 22, 2013 at 8:01 pm

Any airplane shape can be copied. The structures, engines, avionics, communications, metallurgy, specialty materials, manufacturing capability, weapons systems, etc, not so much.

It's like giving someone a tablet for Christmas, but when they open the box they find an Etch-a-Sketch inside.

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badsurfcrimsen November 22, 2013 at 9:04 pm

No!?! Seeing as how China has a copy of every drone that we ever made because of crashes or uncontrolled flight; They simply changed the transceiver of a downed X-47B and they are testing it with their equipment. They must finally have the technology to check out the systems in it.

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Mr.T November 25, 2013 at 6:31 am

Find one chinese drone that looks like a copy of anything US has ,this one is not it ,it sort of resembles Mig Skat but its still a new design ,copy means exactly like.
If it looks sort a similar in concept you might have to consider that design follows function

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Rest Pal November 22, 2013 at 8:45 pm

The video is crap. The lousy music is torture to listen to. Better to do without it.

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CanadianEh! November 22, 2013 at 11:48 pm

Ha-ha…Americans! You are a funny culture. You look at China and think big bad Communist are back ass hillbillies that just copy Western things. Have any of you critics actually been to China and looked around. They build road systems in months not years, and just because they are Communist does not equate to stupidity. Americans have to get of their high horses and realize they are not number one. I wonder how many Asians are building America's military might…you think they are any different because they don't hold a green card or aren't residing in the great US of A. 30 years ago, mainland China was mainly farm country, now they have cities which outclass the US and they did it in no time. Give them a few more years and the States will be copying their tech. If you haven't noticed, China is better educated, has a stronger economy, more resources and has a massive population of willing workers. Lets not forget to mention you're sending them all your jobs.

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rtsy November 23, 2013 at 12:05 am

Couldn't agree more. A lot of the talk here is USA #1, but in many ways China has already shifted to the lead in many areas and we here in the US are doing everything we can to cover that up, largely through financial and institutional manipulation.

The overall size of our military and the dollars status as the reserve currency are our main leverage points, and we are in danger of losing both those advantages if we don't get our act together.

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oblatt2 November 25, 2013 at 2:59 pm

On my way to china I always swing through the US and its pretty obvious that America has given up. You see nobody trying to compete with the Chinese. Nobody even trying to learn the language of what will be the worlds largest economy.

We have already seen what happens when we are faced with an external economic threat – we cower. Japan only had a population one third of ours and yet it captured most of the electronics, automotive and appliance markets.
With China its going to be much worse. At three times the size, China is simply going to dominate.

Economists have a term for the American dilemma they call it being sandwiched. Caught above the smaller more nibble and better educated countries and the crushing weight of China, the economy stagnates and goes into reverse.

One just has to look at where people vote with their money. In the last 5 years as part of quantitative easing you could get practically free money. And everyone I know who took it, invested it in China. They didn't build infrastructure or invest in companies in America because it has no future.

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freeamerica November 23, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Is that real? Are you sticking to these comments or are you being sarcastic? Cities that outclass American cities? Maybe Detroit, but barely. First of all when you say Americans you are talking about almost 400 million people. I am quite sure we all don't all think alike. Now it sounds as if you are a little bitter, is that because its cold up there or is it because your military is basically our "inferior" equipment? Do you have any idea of how bad their roads are and how dangerous they are? You obviously do not. Do you have any idea of how crappy their cities are? Your ignorance is almost bad enough to not deserve a response.

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CanadianEh! November 23, 2013 at 5:08 pm

One question…have you been to China? I have, and I have been to the US and many other countries. While the US of A is tearing up roads and leaving them as gravel tops because of lack of funding, China is outpacing the US of A ten fold. It's not a joke and when you say someone is ignorant or bitter, maybe it's better to have a more factual statement about Canada's climate or military power. Just because it's not as big as yours doesn't mean we don't know how to make better use of it. In this case, size does not matter! Thanks for proving my point…next time don't get your argument from FOX news.

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IKnowIT November 23, 2013 at 6:01 pm

Yeah, we are ripping up roads and leaving them as gravel. Troll. Go read my other posts

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CanadianEh! November 24, 2013 at 9:15 am

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052

I'm pretty sure they are doing the opposite in China. And when someone points out a valid comment and would like to debate a bit, it does not mean they are trolling. Give me some links if you would like me to read your opinions, giving a cursory response does not make you right or give me any initiative to look up your views.

David November 24, 2013 at 11:56 am

I know immigrants from China your tour of the nice TOURIST areas does not qualify you as an expert on the subject.

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CanadianEh! November 24, 2013 at 1:49 pm

You would notice if they tore up I-95 or Broadway and probably realize what was going on. A superpower like the US would be visible for what it is in that scenario. I was also not in China as just as a tourist or in just the "touristy" areas. The irony is, most of the Chinese people I got to know there defend their country and government just like you defend the US's. It's the forest through the trees syndrome. They believe what they believe, you believe what you believe and I have my opinions. I am not saying that they don't have anything new to learn and that they are faultless. I am saying that I've seen some incredible things in China from and architectural and technological point of view and they aren't behind the US in many respects. Roads fall apart all over the world and China is not that clean. During my time in China I didn't see the sun for almost eight months because of the pollution, but equating China to a deck of cards when the US is, let's face it, not on an upswing, seems rather misplaced. As for Chinese immigrants giving you their sides of the story…they left for a reason. I also lived in Japan for a few years and I had several friends from the US telling me some horrible stories about when they lived in the US. Their stories didn't make me think that the US is a bad place not worth visiting or living in. Read something that doesn't support your arguments and then draw a real conclusion. Just like the adage goes "there's your side, and my side and somewhere in the middle is the truth".

CanadianEh! November 25, 2013 at 8:25 am

See, this is why no one respects you. Can't make a valid point so you regress back to a 2 year old.

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BigDeeM November 25, 2013 at 6:13 pm

Well I have to disagree our country has put considerable funding in our road and bridge infrastructure. I know this because I travel the nation. We are tearing up our roads but we are improving them. You must have been here for a short while and made a judgment on your first impression. What most people in other countries are not aware of is that our economy is improving and we are recovering despite our childish leaders inability to lead this country. One thing the strikes me odd is that no one wants to admit that everyone copies off of everyone.

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Mike November 26, 2013 at 1:01 pm

LMFAO YEEEAAAAAAH, out classed American cities. Any country who uses slave labor can achieve anything it wants to at the cost of human lives. Look at the Olypics- If it werent for using American naval Aircrew as hostiges they wouldnt have been able to get it. And now look at the "Birds Nest" rusting away. All shiny things fade when you try to copy what other countries legitametly engineer and cultivate as a people. At the end of the day- China is nothing but a bunch of farmers and peasants pretending to be Americans. Enjoy.

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ROBERT November 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm

Well the canadien speaks, who cares that you been to China you seee only what they want you to see.. There cities are so full of pollution you cant even walk around without masks on some days. ..there economy will be bigger than the USA one day but there per cqpita income will not, they are still basicly poor, they have a grouth of over 8 % but when ur at rock bottom there no place to go but up. There society isnt free as your or mine There COMMUNIST.. the people have no freedom of expression,..nothing that can compare it to us…We do have some issues here,, unethical congress,, bloated milatary industrial complex.( that canadian companies are in on too) We spend money all over the world protecting one country or another(CANADA) and to read your comment with ur disdain for the USA it just confirms my feeling that we should just let the rest of you assholes rot.

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BigDeeM November 25, 2013 at 6:19 pm

There not also understanding there there are over 1.2 billion people in china and that the extreme vast majority of there population is dirt poor. Ther GDP is about 13 trillion with 1.2 billion, and the U.S.A. is 15.68 Trillion with a population of 313.9 million. Not to mention that the U.S.A. is recovering much faster than expected.

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Filipino December 19, 2013 at 5:40 am

The thing is, he's not Canadian but a Chinese troll hiding in western nickname or nicknames

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Paul November 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Brad November 23, 2013 at 10:21 pm

I have been to China, my family lived there for 2 years working for an American energy company. Everything in China is superficial, much like this drone. It looks ok on the outside, but then it collapses, doesn't work right, wears out too soon, breaks, etc. As a Canadian you should be happy that your country is allied with a country that prides itself on getting the job done right, and not just on appearances.

Have YOU ever been to China? If so you would know what I'm saying is true. What I just said is applicable to everything in China. From the schools that collapsed in that earthquake 6 years ago, to the shirts that I have from there that don't fit quite right because they were made cheaply by unskilled laborers that sewed size small sleeves onto a size large torso.

China does not have a stronger economy, maybe you should read the news every one in a while. I find it quite sad you go to a defense industry site to moan about how much you hate the U.S. If you love China so much, maybe you should move there and get yourself some shirts that don't fit.

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Brad November 23, 2013 at 10:28 pm

I'm going to keep going here cause this Canadianeh guy really pissed me off. There are so many people in China that would disagree with what you just said. When I went there for the first time an older man stopped me and my brother in the street to tell us how much he loved the U.S. He was 14 during WWII and he still remembered the site of American bombers flying over Beijing on their way to bomb Japan. He had tears in his eyes telling us this.

The Chinese national, who I will not name, that helped my family settle in and worked as kind of a translator for us would always quietly curse to himself any time we drove by a local government office/ post office/ anything run by the government.

The fact that you are boasting about how great you think China is shows that you know nothing about China at all. From what you have said you may have spent a weekend in Beijing touring the great wall or forbidden city, but I guarantee you that you did not see the REAL China. I'm glad that my family is out of that stink hole for good, and back her in the U S of A.

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bart November 23, 2013 at 10:39 pm

I don't think anyone is bragging about how awesome china is. The point is Americas position of dominance is not guaranteed and if Americans continue to increase in laziness and arrogance China will pass you while you watch tv and eat Cheetos.

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BigDeeM November 25, 2013 at 6:36 pm

The only people that say we are dominant are those who feel that we are….like you. Not sure if your keeping up with current events but Americans are stepping up on living healthy. The gym that I go to has dramatically increased in membership. I have family all across this great nation of ours and the reports have been the same. The more I travel this nation the more is see progress. One thing I do realize is that when I see people like you make ignorant comment about subjects you know absolutely nothing about it makes me laugh. I just don't understand why our country helps people like you.

CanadianEh! November 24, 2013 at 10:08 am

Robert and Brad (and all other's who share their opinion)

I'm sorry that I came of a an US hating douche. My intention was to point out that China is not as backward as you think, and they can develop their own tech. The US in it's infancy created a lot of pollution developing the country you are now. Some of you infrastructure also falls apart during earthquakes…remember LA. And how much did the US steal from Germany and Japan to develop the Manhattan project. The US is no better and in turn no worse than any other country. Your beliefs are different, you are all individuals and when someone doesn't agree with you or debates you, does not mean they are wrong are against you. I learn from these experiences and I hope you do too.

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IKnowIT November 24, 2013 at 7:18 pm

troll!

BigDeeM November 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm

Well I'm pleased to inform you that most of our factories are moving back to the good old U.S. of A. including some of the ones in Canada. So that way China, and Canada is no longer bothered by the smoke, also not sure if you know this but must stores in the U.S.A. is pushing for all made in America products. That way where back selling everything to you and your favorite country of China. I have no problem with Canada or Canadians just jackholes like yourself.

David November 24, 2013 at 11:53 am

Actually you are quite wrong. Between pollution and over development in some areas they aren't doing so great. And the development is generally limited to coastal areas. You're wrong on so many levels. China is a deck of cards which is already becoming very unstable politically, culturally, environmentally, and economically.

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CanadianEh! November 25, 2013 at 9:02 am

Actually, the difference between coastal development and inland has a difference of 0.1 percent. Make sense though, most countries develop close to the coast for transportation/shipping purposes. I would rather throw my junk on a junk, rather than stick it on a train and have it go over the mountains. Did you catch my junk pun?

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Brad November 25, 2013 at 6:36 pm

"A deck of cards" is a great way of putting it. That's the exact idea I was going for when talking about how everything there is superficial. From meeting Chinese and actually talking to them on a deeper level than some tourist taking pictures of the great wall, I know how hollow Chinese society is. You have about 15-20% is the upper/ upper-middle class who are very vocal about their nationalist sentiment (those are the ones putting out the press releases about their copied technology), the other 80% of the country just wants to be left alone, not bullied by their government, and live their lives in peace and not interfere in other nation's affairs.

From what is happening in the Middle East, we can all see what happens when a country has an 80/20 split. The 20% might be calling the shots now, but they won't forever. That deck of cards will collapse.

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Navy Seal 9009 November 25, 2013 at 7:36 am

Maybe your country can build it own versions of F-18, C-17, C-130, but I doubt it. If it wasn't for the United States protecting YOU, you would be speaking Russian.

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greg November 23, 2013 at 12:06 am

China hasn't developed anything on their own since spaghetti.

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mpower6428 November 23, 2013 at 12:40 am

THE HELL YOU SAY…. spaghetti was invented in " Waco Texas ". get your facts straight JEEEESH.

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Big-Dean November 23, 2013 at 7:08 pm

As Checkov would say "spaghetti was invested in Russia" :-D

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King November 23, 2013 at 12:57 am
King November 23, 2013 at 1:05 am
pleuris November 26, 2013 at 3:51 am

you're right…I recognised it also as a copy of the Skat UAV.

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William_C1 November 23, 2013 at 1:53 am

Based on the wreckage of a certain RQ-170 no doubt.

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Casey Elliott November 23, 2013 at 3:46 am

That's what I thought too.

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anthony November 23, 2013 at 6:46 am

Cant even take off? Is this a joke or so??

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Davis November 23, 2013 at 8:36 am

Who in hell is giving the Chinese all the military info on these military items we have been using?

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Patrick November 23, 2013 at 8:17 pm

Look up Ghost Net. They stole the plans and much much more.

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Navy Seal 9009 November 25, 2013 at 7:44 am

They steal it by hacking into our "Secured Government Computer Systems"

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conradswims November 23, 2013 at 11:10 am

PRC word for research!. Steal!

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WarPony November 23, 2013 at 2:25 pm

Grumman x-47 download no doubt.

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Hefe November 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm

I believe that we should implement better standards for all of the defense industries like boeing and Lockheed with regards to keeping secrets. Things like, don't put military plans on an internet server. If someone wants to look at the plans they can go and see it for themselves or the plans will be delivered via armed courier. No more overseas conference calls. If anyone works at a defense firm, they should sign an agreement allowing their bank account to be looked at any time. That way it'll be apparent if anyone has paid them large sums of cash in exchange for technology. That being said, we wouldn't be concerned about China if we had a balanced budge.

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WarPony November 23, 2013 at 2:32 pm

Clinton sold US out to the chi-coms years ago, and no doubt BHO is doing the same. It's all part of the plan to bring the "GREAT" war as prophesied by Albert Pike, and as seen in George Washington's vision. Or, you could skim over the Book of Revelation and get the gist of the plan of the global central bankster mafia.

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Navy Seal 9009 November 25, 2013 at 7:46 am

Hefe, you nailed it!

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WarPony November 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm

Learn to spell and you won't look like an idiot bragart.

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SanctimoniousPrick November 23, 2013 at 7:41 pm

that should be braggart….

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conradswims November 23, 2013 at 4:46 pm

Yea! Me Too!

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Marshall November 23, 2013 at 6:31 pm

Who's more worrisome? The communist without, or the socialists within?

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bull manure November 27, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Good point!

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Guoyang December 1, 2013 at 10:30 pm
dubweiser101 November 23, 2013 at 7:33 pm

I'm not sure what's worse, Israel stealing our tech then selling it to our competitors, or our competitors buying it from those who stole it.

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hibeam November 23, 2013 at 9:17 pm

Meanwhile in America: "He gabe us a phone" "He gonna do more"

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Justin November 23, 2013 at 10:28 pm

Anyone else notice the large non-stealth feature of the conical shaped jet exhaust???

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Mike November 26, 2013 at 1:07 pm

yeah, first thing I noticed on it. This is a horrible engineering project. Probably gave it to a bunch of University students and told them to build one like it or else their families will be working in a lead toy factory for ever.

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Mark November 23, 2013 at 11:04 pm
SMSgtMac November 23, 2013 at 11:58 pm

Geez people, learn your UAVs will ya? This looks more like the Taranis and nothing like the X-47A or B.

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aswipe November 24, 2013 at 2:12 am

don't worry they don't have Chuck Norris..

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mrlee November 24, 2013 at 4:37 am

Memory seems to be lacking in one and all of these comments. Wasn't it about one year ago that we had all of the defective electronic parts complaints come to the fore? And where were these parts manufactured? You guessed it, China. Well, if they were manufacturing our spare parts, isn't that called giving your technology away? And there is an old saying, that military secrets are the most fleeting ones. And before WWII, people were going around mocking the Japanese as too small to be soldiers, and that we would obviously beat them in a fight, so they would never attack us. But then came December 7, 1941. Mao once said that we could go ahead and bomb China and kill half of their people, and they would still outnumber us 2 to 1. True, the odds would be closer to even now, but that would solve a lot of their problems. How many years between getting our first man into space, and having our first space station? And they did it in less than three. Beware of your enemy, he is sneaky, and he is out to get you.

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Davis November 24, 2013 at 8:54 am

I wonder how many other military items the Chinese have copied from us, but do they work as ours?

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Fred Weems November 28, 2013 at 1:43 am
wtpworrier November 25, 2013 at 9:01 am

And yet, you come up with asinine remarks like this….

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d. kellogg November 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm

Wow.
So genetically speaking, them "pesky inferior japs" should not have been able to design weapons like the Zero fighter or Long Lance torpedo,
and those "inferior Chinese" never should've invented gunpowder or made crucial contributions to agriculture, astronomy, navigation, and other scientific discovery back in the day, when real credit was only ever given of such things to those of a predominantly white Anglo-Saxon/Nordic genetics and of the Judeo-Christian faiths.

What a bunch of racist drivel.

Better to blame these tech blunders on all those lonely engineers in American corporations giving it up ("technical assistance" for the betterment of global corporate profitability margins) all for a piece of some little Asian @ss.
And who's the inferior one?

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wtpworrier November 25, 2013 at 9:06 am

You could find pictures of our drone on google, or anywhere on the internet…I mean, if China got this tech from anywhere, it was probably wikipedia, or from that dumb azz that defected not too long ago.

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roland November 25, 2013 at 7:39 pm

Told you not to use their laptop made hardwares.

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benny November 26, 2013 at 10:23 am

You dumb stupd amercans. China has gotten where they are from your stupidity in not guarding tech information and they have the money to do what they want because you continue to shop at Walmart. Remember the old days when Sam Walton aid he would only sell American then he got caught. 98% of what Walmart sells is made in CHINA. So you keep saving money by spending at Walmaret and while you're t it you'd better learn to speak CHINESE. They are the strongest economic power n the world now and you made them that way. When they get strong enough they will invade Taiwan, and we won't be able to stop them.

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V November 26, 2013 at 12:47 pm
V November 26, 2013 at 12:47 pm
@RioFalcon November 26, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Leave it to the Chinese military to be the copy-cats of what our Military builds for National Defense… Their drone… Obviously, they have no creative brains…

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Tata November 27, 2013 at 7:36 am
Sev December 1, 2013 at 3:24 pm

China is just doing what's smart. WHy pay for development when you can steal technology? They aren't stupid. They send their engineers to learn in the US and they come back and improve on the technology without having to do the bulk of the initial research. If we can't secure our technical data then you're going to see this continue and eventually you will not only see original chinese designs but superior and cheaper designs. The US is destroying itself from the inside from it's overspending, destruction of the family and establishment of an unsustainable welfare state. They have more than enough pressure points on us to press.

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badryl March 12, 2014 at 5:14 am

haha, i always laughing when american comments. other nations kill hundreds, thousands u all already barking and shouting, but u already killed millions and still growing around the globe.

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IKnowIT November 23, 2013 at 5:53 pm

And by knew, I mean new.. clearly.. rushing a bit on the post..

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oblatt2 November 24, 2013 at 4:49 am

Not really the Chinese simply have more of everything. More smart engineers more researchers now more patent filing. And they have a much better work ethic. Industry, education and careers are much more competitive.

China is moving at around 5 times the speed of the US – they are accomplishing things that took the US 50 years in a decade.

The problem for a lot of Americans is how can they compete with a country that does everything they used to do better bigger and faster – and so they have given up. The only growth industry in the US is nostalgia.

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Lewis Smart November 24, 2013 at 8:39 am

It's true that a great many of the patents are crap, but a percentage of them are decent. Many of them are filed in an attempt to get some sort of subsidy, but many others are filed because they know they're onto something and don't want Chinese or foreign competitors stealing them before they can profit.

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mpower6428 November 24, 2013 at 1:34 am

Hey homie, there is something you don't seem to be understanding…. if an exact copy of a Rolex works exactly like a real Rolex without the patent and the lawyers…. whats the god damn difference… especially in a war.

Listen very closely… I can feel that despite my best efforts you are going to continue to split hairs whilst arguing minutia and diction but, MAKE NO MISTAKE. the Chinese don't give a shit.

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oblatt2 November 24, 2013 at 4:12 am

and of course Rolex isn't made in America either. LOL

The problem is that most Americans are essentially provincial. The future is passing them by and they don't even know it.

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David November 24, 2013 at 11:46 am

Thing is when you copy thing you never truly understand the design which makes it harder to modify or repair. It also means you are continuously behind the curve since someone else has to make it before you can steal it.

You also have to consider the potential of leaked designs being purposely flawed. Counter espionage does exist and it isn't always performed in a defensive manner.

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Charles James Haas November 30, 2013 at 7:37 pm

Like was said in an earlier post, things like flight controls, details of stealth, engine technology can mean the difference from a good weapon and a great one. Like, the Sharp Sword has not been designated as a UAV for aircraft carriers as far as I know. The X-47B is, and has flown from two carriers arlready. The Sharp Sword may be no more of an acheivement than our Compass Cope UAVs from the 1960s. Getting a UAV into the air is not a great accomplishment in the long run. But, it doesn't mean that the Chinese haven't learns much from espionage or from buying technology.

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freeamerica December 5, 2013 at 7:50 pm

You listen homie…they cant make an exact copy of the Rolex, it wont work exactly like a Rolex, so there is a difference. There are so many US haters on this site, trolling. What makes this country great is the fact that we can recover and we are recovering. Keep hating, I see it a jealousy.

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David November 24, 2013 at 12:21 pm

I read the link. Towns in the middle of nowhere with a small tax base overspent and built roads they couldn't afford, and they don't want to pay higher taxes to keep them. It isn't as if they are tearing up I-95 or Broadway in NYC and leaving it as gravel. Honestly, its is the fiscally responsible thing to do.

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blight_ November 24, 2013 at 1:23 pm

You're also papering up the aggressive capital spending that leads to empty projects. Building giant malls that are empty. Giant planned cities that aren't occupied. Knockoff Paris-replicas that will never be occupied.

China is still building, but is now building for all the wrong reasons. Building new cities for the sake of having them is bubble behavior that is symptomatic of the bubble that blew up on America. It would be tragic to see America's fifty year rise-and-fall to be followed by a short three-decade rise-and-fall of the People's Republic.

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IKnowIT November 24, 2013 at 7:17 pm

Okay- here you go- China ghost cities… go check this out.. This is how they keep GDP up
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-ideas/inside

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Mike November 24, 2013 at 9:30 pm

When they can make it for less than half the price it doesn't matter if it's not quite as good… it also means you can make twice as many for the same price which does matter.

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mpower6428 November 25, 2013 at 3:12 am

with your permission… id like to chalk that up under "wishful thinking"…..

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CanadianEh! November 25, 2013 at 8:54 am

See, this is cool, a valid argument that I can respect. I have actually been to Ordos, it's a bit of a tourist thing now and the population went up a bit after that article. It is a mining city that didn't work the way they hoped and would equate to many cities in the US after the Gold Rush…though much larger and modern. I would argue that it's development was not to keep the GDP up, but to keep the GNP up…there is a difference. There is a lot of personal wealth there and it's all owned and payed for, just not many people are using it. You can/could find something similar but opposite in the US after the housing bubble burst, lots of new homes that have been abandoned or went unsold. The difference is that that property is now foreclosed and owned by a bank. The property in Ordos is owned by a very small group of very rich people who also own the mines. I guess you could argue that they not only copied your military tech, but your development plans as well. And please stop with the name calling…makes you seem uneducated.

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oblatt2 November 25, 2013 at 3:06 pm

Yep there are many towns and cities in the US with declining populations. If you know your never going to need the infrastructure then why bother with it.

China on the other hand is in the process of the largest urbanization in history as hundreds of millions are lifted into the middle class. For all the talk of ghost cities there is actually a shortage of housing.

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oblatt2 November 25, 2013 at 3:11 pm

The really funny thing of course is that China has been under-reporting its GDP. Because the provinces have targets to meet that they cannot exceed to prevent overheating of the economy – many of them have been under-reporting to the central government. China's real GDP could have well been 5 points higher in the last decade.

Suhc huge growth means you can just grow through many problems. And China has done it many times in the past. Even and economic crash the size of 2008 in the US would hardly register a blip due to the incredible demand.

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Filipino December 19, 2013 at 5:37 am

loool! Chinese troll hiding in western names ahahahhaa!

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Rest Pal November 27, 2013 at 2:45 am

quote: "most of our factories are moving back to the good old U.S. of A. including some of the ones in Canada"

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LOL. BigDeeM, Did you see them in some BigDelusionalMovie? Or is that your Christmas prayer? Sorry to inform you that American CEOs are not as dumb as you would like them to be. In fact, the wave of outsourcing is continuing. I'd stay away from BigDelusionalMeds if at all possible.

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Filipino December 19, 2013 at 5:36 am

lol! the empty huge shopping malls? And Housing bubble that nobody's buying? lool loool loool!

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