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U.S. Troops Sign Up to Become Mars’ First Settlers

by Bryant Jordan on January 10, 2014

MarsOneAstronautFor Army Lt. Heidi Beemer, space flight has always been a dream, but that dream seemed out of reach for the light chemical decontamination platoon leader at Fort Campbell, Ky., until she read about the Mars One project.

Mars One is a program unaffiliated with any government that plans to send a series of spacecraft to Mars in hopes of inhabiting the red planet by 2025. The program is already signing up volunteers.

Beemer is one of the volunteers selected by project leaders as she is one of many U.S. troops who have signed up and made the cut.

“When this opportunity opened up to me, at 24 years old, there was no looking back, no second guessing. This is what I’ve wanted to do my entire life,” Beemer said.

She is one of slightly more than 1,000 men and women who recently learned they made the first cut toward selecting crews to begin settling the Red Planet.

If all goes as the Mars One project plans, a series of Mars-bound spacecraft – each with a crew of four – will begin landing on the planet at two year intervals starting in 2025.

More than 200,000 people from all over the world applied to be Mars pioneers and a number of those who passed muster in the first phase are U.S. service members or veterans, according to Dr. Norbert Kraft, formerly with NASA and now chief medical officer for Mars One.

Not all the applicants have released their names and profiles to the public, but Kraft said they include a combat engineer, a CV-22 Osprey pilot, several fighter pilots, flight surgeons, a Navy SEAL, a UH-60 Blackhawk mechanical test pilot and a Navy journalist.

Military experience is not a requirement, Kraft said, but those with that background do understand the importance of teamwork.

“The key question is how do you work as a team?” he said. “You have to complement each other, depend on each other. One thing is respect, and I think you learn that in the military … and you have to know what you want and you have to be serious.”

And Mars One is serious, given that each and every person selected has to be aware there is no coming back.

“The first ones there will be [permanent] Mars settlers. Mars has only 38 percent of Earth’s gravity. There will be a point of no return, where they can’t come back. Their bones would crumble” in the heavier Earth gravity.

“It’s a hell of a thing to tell your mother,” Navy Mass Communications Specialist Glenn Brooks Slaughter said. “That was not a fun phone call. But my mom is an adventurer – she’s traveled the world. We’ve traveled together. She’s come around.”

Slaughter is currently at Syracuse University studying advance digital journalism. He has been following the Mars One project since he first learned of it a few years back. As part of the initial application he sent Mars One a brief, humorous video he produced last year aboard the USS Nimitz, pointing out that he can live and work in cramped quarters, eat anything and is very sociable.

On a more serious note, his background also includes working for AmeriCorps National Civilian Community Corp, traveling around the country in 15-passenger van for 10 months at a time, building homes, working with the Red Cross, engaged in emergency programs, including search and rescue.

“I’m single, I’m 36, I don’t have any kids,” he said. “I don’t own a lot of things. I’m interested in being part of something that advances the human race.”

That’s probably the philosophy that Mars One is looking for. Given the Spartan accommodations and facilities, Mars One‘s mission does not include populating the planet, and the company does not encourage any Martian pioneers from starting families there, it says.

CW4 David Woodward could leave Earth for Mars without feeling he has left his life behind.

“If I were to get selected and was on the first crew [in 2025] I’d be 54 years old when we landed,” he told Military​.com in a phone call from Afghanistan, where he is deployed to the 101st Airborne as part of Task Force Lift. “So I’d have pretty much lived a full life here on Earth, and so the opportunity to spend the rest of my life doing something so unique – Not many people who reach retirement age will get to do that.”

And he’d also be very busy on Mars, he said, gardening, doing maintenance work and conducting experiments. And there will be video calls to stay in touch with people on Earth.

According to Mars One’s mission plan, it will begin sending up unmanned craft by 2018, to establish a base and communications center, followed in 2022 by unmanned craft with settler supplies and also robots to begin assembling water and oxygen processing equipment. That process will be repeated after the first crew reaches Mars in 2025; an unmanned spacecraft will deliver two years worth of supplies and food so that each group of arrivals always is well stocked, even as they cultivate their own Martian gardens.

Mars One was founded in 2011 by Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdorp and Arno Wielders, a physicist formerly with NASA. Unaffiliated with any government, the project is raising funds through donations, including crowd funding, and sponsorships.

Mars One projects it will cost about $6 billion to get its first crew on Mars, with subsequent missions costing about $4 billion.

Beemer said her own parents were not entirely surprised when she broke the news to them that she would be volunteering to settle on Mars. Many of her choices have surprised her family, she said, such as going to a military college, Virginia Military Institute, and then going Army when they thought she would go Air Force.

“He was taken aback once again,” she said of her father. “But he’s been super supportive. By the time I got to the big, major [news] – that I wanted to leave Earth forever and go to Mars – he was, once again, speechless.”

But given her longtime interest in space, he knew this day would have to come, she said. His view is that “if somebody’s going to do this it may as well be my kid,” she said.

Correction: An early version of this article stated that Mars had 6 percent of Earth’s gravity. It is 38 percent as our readers astutely noted.

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Andrew January 10, 2014 at 11:39 am

I'm pretty sure that Mars actually has 38% of Earth's gravity, not the six percent mentioned in the article.

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AGL Bob January 10, 2014 at 12:24 pm
ziv January 10, 2014 at 3:22 pm

I was kind of surprised by such a basic error. 38% is correct and that means that there is a good chance that people could live on Mars without the negative consequences of microgravity on their health. Even the Moon is a problem for health issues because 16.6% is probably marginal in the long term, but no one knows for sure.

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Musson January 10, 2014 at 12:53 pm

Send ahead a small robot factory to distill O2, water and methane into large collapsable bladders. Once you have a large reserve, then send people.

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Really? January 10, 2014 at 1:07 pm

Really? Inhabiting Mars by 2025?

Whatever is that they are smoking, I want some, too. Must be really good.

Talk is cheap. In fact it's free. Why not talk about inhabiting the Sun by 2030, if not, inhibiting it.

Design a rocket that can carry 2-3 people to the Moon by 2030, and I'll be shocked.

Such pipe dreams aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.

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Benjamin January 10, 2014 at 5:07 pm

THey are not talking about terraforming the planet to look like earth but basically using things that are already around to start the colonization process. Its do able but to leave one's family makes it hard

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Really? January 10, 2014 at 6:33 pm

Really? Was I talking about "terraforming Mars"??

They won't even be able to build a rocket capable of safely carrying people to the Moon by 2025, let alone Mars. These delusional dreamers are talking about inhabiting Mars!

GW Bush boastfully announced a plan in his first term to return man to the Moon in 2018. How is that plan going?

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Kurt Montandon January 10, 2014 at 10:43 pm

"GW Bush boastfully announced a plan in his first term to return man to the Moon in 2018. How is that plan going?"

Well, look who you're talking about. We can expect slightly higher competence from … uh, pretty much anyone else.

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Guest January 11, 2014 at 12:36 am

If these Mars One guys are seriously planning to start inhabiting Mars by 2025, then they are as delusional and incompetent as GW Bush.

Anyone who knows the reality of US aerospace engineering knows that these guys are talking out of their ass.

Ozzy January 11, 2014 at 6:59 pm

It's funny…the Apollo missions carried "2-3" men to the moon on various occasions…in the 60's. Forget about what the egg-heads are smoking, I wanna know what rock you live under.

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JKD January 12, 2014 at 7:28 pm

I'm working on my PhD in computer engineering at MIT. I don't believe NASA's Apollo program was real. Most of friends in other degree programs hold similar unequivocal stand that the manned lunar landings were a farce.

What's your education background? Do you have an advanced degree in science or engineering?

****** January 15, 2014 at 12:56 pm

Hunter76 January 11, 2014 at 9:39 am

We sent people to the moon and back 44 yr ago.

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Guest January 11, 2014 at 12:10 pm

NO, we didn't.

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Hunter76 January 11, 2014 at 12:23 pm

Are you one of those Apollo landing deniers?

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Billy January 11, 2014 at 2:12 pm

Either that or he's a major idiot

Taylor January 15, 2014 at 2:14 pm

Did too …

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Vanessa Harris January 11, 2014 at 5:23 pm

This is the same attitude that flew out of people's mouths before it was proven the earth is not flat. Sarcasm & cynicism are the vices of a small mind.

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Guest January 14, 2014 at 11:36 am

What about persecution of scientists by the Roman Catholic Church? It had defended Geocentrism for 400 years and given up the hopeless task only recently.

What about the people who wrote and promoted geocentrism in the Bible and the scriptures. Did they have a small mind, too?

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Mike January 13, 2014 at 3:30 am

Already did that – Apollo Missions 1963 to 1972

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 8:06 pm

1963 to 1972? Please do tell: who landed on the moon in 1963?

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Thomas L. Nielsen January 14, 2014 at 2:00 am

Probably the Belgians.

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg

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Mike January 13, 2014 at 8:26 am

They told that to President Kennedy when we had NO Space technology. How well did that one work out

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Hunter76 January 13, 2014 at 9:26 am

About 6% of the US pop believes the moon landings are fake. Wikipedia has a long article with references, "Moon landing conspiracy theories". Doubters don't have to believe it, but they should read it to see the refutations of the doubters' arguments.

I never bought the conspiracy because it was too massive and lacked sufficient motive.

Rus, EU, Japan, India, and China have sent lunar orbiters with hi res cameras (descent modules, moon buggies and their tracks are visible) and none deny the landings, and are not disinclined to embarrass US– for two of them anything embarrassing US would be national policy.

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Guest January 14, 2014 at 11:57 am

Only 6%? I've heard much higher percentages, but I'd consider 6% a good sign, because like intelligent students in a school, competent managers in a corporations, or wise leaders among nations, their percentages are usually about 5%, sometimes less.

Suffice to say you are not equipped to understand too many things.

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Jake January 14, 2014 at 2:15 pm

Suffice to say, you have issues with the simple concept of Occam's Razor, or the priciple that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

You remind me of the 9/11 truffers who claim jet fule couldn't burn hot enough, based on its temperature of ignition – never considering how the reaction is moderated by both fuel AND oxygen… because they never did something simple like start charcoal using a chimney starter.

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Jake January 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm

boy, my typing sucks today… need an edit option.

loeb January 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm

Huh? "reaction .. moderated by both fuel AND oxygen…" Let me tell you something a junior high dropout would understand: burning of jet fuel always require oxygen.

Jet fuel (a hydrocarbon) cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. This is well-established fact.

Seriously, this forum is NOT for kids or people with sub-junior education.

Guest January 21, 2014 at 2:30 pm

No sense in trying to convince the tin foil hat conspiracy theory crowd that humans landed on the moon.

They are so firmly convinced that it was not done that they will try to refute anything that shows the reality as doctored, or faked.

Better to let them prattle on, unless they prove to be dangerous.

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Taylor January 15, 2014 at 10:56 am

They already designed a rocket that could carry 2-3 people to the moon, it was the Saturn V, in july 1969.

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Tanner January 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm
Catherine Hedges January 17, 2014 at 8:50 pm

Prepare to be shocked, then, because we've been to the moon and back

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Guest January 22, 2014 at 4:08 am

What's your evidence? We're not interested if you are merely repeating BS claims of the government.

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acks January 19, 2014 at 4:30 pm

well Really? I hope you like being shocked there going to use the Space X, Falcon Heavy Rocket. Before Mars One even announced to the public there plans to inhabit mars they looked at all the existing space technology and realized that no new technology needed to be developed to live on mars.
But the real question is if they go though with it, but we won't really know until 2018 when there first launch is scheduled to send unmanned equipment to mars

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hibeam January 10, 2014 at 1:46 pm

Maybe we can start a new society up there without all the welfare dead wood.

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whoszat January 11, 2014 at 5:34 pm

A new life awaits you in the Off-world colonies.

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Kim Scholer January 13, 2014 at 11:39 am

I trust you've signed up by now.

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Anonymous January 13, 2014 at 1:52 pm

The irony of posting that on a military tech website. Being that the military industrial complex is one giant welfare recipient.

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D-SKI January 10, 2014 at 2:25 pm

This is just pie in the sky dreaming.

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Jeffery McNair January 10, 2014 at 3:35 pm

Can they breath the mars air freely

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Really? January 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm

The human race is messing up the pristine air on Earth in a matter of 200 years. Soon we might have to buy bottled air like we are doing with drinking water.

Must be some ego freaks in the aerospace industry trying to get attention.

Plenty of brainless megalomaniacs inhaling too much smoky stuff too freely in the country. That's for sure.

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eggshell January 12, 2014 at 10:27 am
dan January 12, 2014 at 12:42 pm

No you can't but I'm sure the nut jobs planning to inhabit Mars will tell you "everything is possible"

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IDK January 13, 2014 at 5:38 am

I'm pretty sure you don't "Grow Eggs" I'm pretty sure they come from a living animal called the Chicken. And if a human being can breath with equipment and structures they build on mars I can't see why not to bring animals. See what can live and can't live there. And I'm pretty sure we can't breath there. But how the fuck would I know. I'm not some scientist or anything. So who cares. There is no way we'll be on mars by 2025 or in my lifetime so who the fuck cares.

Ridic Ulous January 16, 2014 at 7:32 am

Yes, they're bringing lots of egg seeds! They said so in another article.

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ziv January 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm

Absolutely, Jeffery. If you can breathe at 45,000 feet here on Earth and you don't really have much use for oxygen, you will be able to breathe freely on Mars.
But it is possible to terraform Mars so that the temps will come up to say, freezing, and the pressure could be increased to the point where your eyes won't pop out of your skull, allowing for the use of a breathing mask instead of a full on pressure suit.
In a few decades, with a boat load of work and energy, probably necessarily nuclear.

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blight_ January 13, 2014 at 3:29 pm

Might not be enough atmosphere to get around without a suit.

I guess Alaskans and Siberians will be the first people we send to Mars.

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acks January 19, 2014 at 4:35 pm

Nope the atmosphere is too thin on mars to keep air but there going to be making it from water they pull out of the dirt as frozen frost

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ziv January 10, 2014 at 3:35 pm

Given the probability that Spacex will in fact reduce the cost to get cargo to LEO by a huge factor within a couple years, this isn't pie in the sky dreaming any longer. They have reduced the price per pound to LEO from $4k-$10k (for the less expensive Western rockets, not the pricey Shuttle) down to $1k. By getting the price down to less than $2,000,000 per ton, everything changes and even Mars is possible.
Time to pick up that tatty old copy of Red Mars and start to think about how todays technology is better and/or worse than that which Robinson based his novels on. Because it will be done within a generation, the only question is which nation will lead the effort.
http://www.nss.org/articles/falconheavy.html

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blight_ January 10, 2014 at 4:14 pm

People's Republic, of course.

Turning Foxconn et al to the production of massive numbers of cheap rockets, they colonize Mars on waves of rocket payload. Some blow up in the atmosphere. Some don't quite make it to Mars. But Red Mars for Red China.

In the meantime, we build Littoral Combat Ships…

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ziv January 10, 2014 at 5:06 pm

And yet it is Spacex that is taking the steps needed to make space travel affordable. As long as we don't tax or regulate it to death, space flight could be a huge money maker and it could make life better for people all over the world.
China is looking at a hard decade or three coming up, they don't have the money they need to build clean electricity plants or to build a mass transit system for their new cities. They sure as heck don't have the money to do anything other than a symbolic trip or two to the moon.
China will do what they do because they gain face and they will do it at the lowest possible price. Whether it is a trip to the moon or claiming the Senkaku islands, it all comes down to face.

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Really? January 10, 2014 at 6:47 pm

Really? America can afford to do what China can't? Even though China is the biggest creditor funding the US government right now? I suppose it was the Chinese government that had to shut down for a week late last year?

You must be some intelligent life form from Mars.

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HongKongCharlie January 11, 2014 at 9:04 am

conradswims January 10, 2014 at 4:16 pm

I have a list of people I would like to send there.

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guest January 11, 2014 at 3:57 pm

I believe anything is possible because my brain cells couldn't even harness fire, but these geniuses already mastered electricity, radio waves, launched satellites and invented the GPS, so my mind can't deny them their ambition to colonize Mars. Plus, if they can entertain the world with such shows as "Desperate Housewives," what can't they do??? Oh and don't forget the touch screen phones… simply mind-blowing brilliance. HA HA!

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Kim Scholer January 13, 2014 at 11:40 am

Judging by the number of thumbs-up you got, many of us had that thought first too.

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 10:15 pm

that would be about 1 billion dollars per head (coffins not included).

how many billions do you have in your bank account?

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Jacob January 10, 2014 at 5:18 pm

If we're going to colonize any other celestial bodies, shouldn't we start with the moon? A one-way trip to Mars in 2025 is just a death sentence.

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whoszat January 11, 2014 at 5:35 pm

Staying on Earth is a death sentence.

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guest January 12, 2014 at 12:39 pm

Not if you kill off all the polluters.

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voodkokk January 12, 2014 at 9:39 am

Was thinking more like Arizona or New Mexico.

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guest January 12, 2014 at 12:37 pm

Don't forget Nevada and the Sahara Desert.

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james January 16, 2014 at 10:35 am

Being born is a death sentence.

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AAK January 10, 2014 at 5:23 pm

It's theoretically do-able, the tech exists. There are people who genuinely want to participate.

But there is no real funding. $10 billion plus by crowdsourcing, sponsorship, TV show? Nonsense.

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Rob C. January 10, 2014 at 5:57 pm

Good for her for making the cut. I just hope Mars One project has its act together when they eventually send these people. Its not only going be challenging, they'll be fighting for their lives. The technology they'll be using needs to work right. Someone with her expertise will be god send if they get there.

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Guest January 11, 2014 at 12:29 am

Those who have signed up for Mars One will all die of old age on earth.

It simply won't happen in 2025. Nor will it happen by 2050, nor 2075. At least not by the US.

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Musson January 13, 2014 at 3:02 pm

The shock is when they find out they have to pay their own way!

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hibeam January 10, 2014 at 10:44 pm

I like the helmets. You can walk around on mars without getting sucker punched in the face.

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Burt January 11, 2014 at 11:07 pm
mrlee January 11, 2014 at 12:37 am

One thing puzzles me, if they are encouraging them NOT to populate the planet, who gets to be the last person to die there? And to what end? Let's face it, people are people are people, babies will come along in time. And then they will have to supply them with Pampers.

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Knyte January 11, 2014 at 4:49 am
mrlee January 11, 2014 at 1:15 pm

You missed my point. The same way that they have allowed women on ships in the Navy, and they have gotten pregnant , even though it is against regulations, they will do it out there also. And then what are they going to do, keep the babies there as part of the experiment, of ship the pregnant mother home in time (hopefully), before the birth. Because can you imagine a newborn baby having to go in zero gravity?

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Dave January 11, 2014 at 2:51 pm

Unless as part of the pre-flight screenings one of the things they have to agree to is sterilization. Then they can go and not have to worry about babies.

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Anonymous January 12, 2014 at 3:51 pm

You obviously know nothing about child development. You cant have a baby be conceived and developed inside a mother in low gravity, then suddenly before birth have it go back to full earth gravity. The baby would never make it. Any births would have to be done on mars to reduce the chance of a stillborn baby.

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Mike January 13, 2014 at 3:40 am

150 to 300 days depending on speed of launch. Plus I suspect the ships are built for one way flight due to weight of fuel and supplies.

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ziv January 11, 2014 at 8:56 pm

The anti-populate idea is an attempt to preempt the "Don't despoil pristine Mars!" idiocy. The best thing that could happen would be for families to have kids and for the colony to grow, but they can't admit that they want that to happen until after the kids are there.

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SGT BJH January 11, 2014 at 9:46 pm

Or Trojans?

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Cathy B. January 17, 2014 at 7:34 pm

The first baby born on Mars is going to become so famous simply for that. Hopefully, that child won't ever get sent back to Earth for any reason because the Papparazzi will hound him or her mercilessly for the duration of the visit. It would be 10,000 times worse than what they do to Suri Cruise or any of the royal children like Prince George.

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Guest January 21, 2014 at 2:16 pm

A child born and raised there would likely never be able to come to earth without life support systems, the child would be crippled or die otherwise – it would be an enormous strain on their bodies.

You are right though, the child would be famous – the first native born citizen of Mars….

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Guest January 22, 2014 at 4:10 am

utter nonense.

first show us the rocket they are planning to use for the trip.

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Robert January 11, 2014 at 3:36 am

What a venture.

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Guest January 11, 2014 at 12:25 pm

You can bet the ranch that they will see plenty of dentures, but not a venture.

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Knyte January 11, 2014 at 4:43 am
Wolf January 11, 2014 at 9:37 am
Wolf January 11, 2014 at 9:41 am
ALWAYSVERITA January 11, 2014 at 9:42 am

“Pipe Dreams?” Absolutely! We ALL have them but only some are “brave” enough to chase them. Amazing – Exciting – Incredible – GOD Speed!!!!!

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mrlee January 12, 2014 at 5:43 am

Sixty-four years ago, we used to hang around the back door of the bakery when they were making donuts. One day I asked the man if we could have that stuff that they were throwing away when they came out of the fryer, and he went and got a bag and gave some to us. We kept coming back until he told us that he could not do it any more, and that if wee wanted it, we had to go up front and BUY IT. Yes folks, that was the beginning of DONUT- HOLES. I was only five when I created the market for them, but they took off from there, as the idea spread from one bakery to another. And someone along the way patented them or copywrited them, or whatever. But sometimes that is how ideas happen.

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peawe January 13, 2014 at 4:50 pm

that's what my grandfather said a bout the moon a man walking on it pipedream

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David Beemer January 11, 2014 at 10:25 am

I'm glad so many military personal where picked for for the initial 1000. We have the training and the discipline that will be needed to make this work. Sucks that it's a one way trip but I'm hopeful, for maybe not so obvious reasons, that technology will be such that one day people will be able to visit Mars.

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oblatt2 January 11, 2014 at 11:22 am

For a lot of our servicemen facing unemployment, an epidemic of brain and psychological injuries and the shame of two defeated wars volunteering for a suicide mission to mars sure beats ending it any other way.

But NASA cant even get them into LEO let alone to Mars. Although I can see the Chinese being interested in a reality TV program where 25 Americans are marooned on mars and only one will be allowed back.

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M.Lieb January 11, 2014 at 2:56 pm

The Chinese will be bootlegging it like they always do. With the standard of American television this will be an American show. The Ultimate Survivor – Mars Edition!

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 7:38 pm

to be staged inside a studio in Area 51, like the fake lunar landings in 1969 thru 1972.

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Guest2 January 15, 2014 at 10:21 am

The moon landings were not fake, you are showing your ignorance. This Mars project will never happen on that much we agree.

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loeb January 15, 2014 at 5:55 pm

NASA's pictures and videos are indeed fake. Science always trumps blind faith. Go through NASA pictures and analysis yourself (a couple of days only). You don't even need to be an engineer or scientist. Knowledge about film photography and optical physics helps though.

If you read the stories of whistleblowers and reports of test failures, you will find it impossible to refute. NASA faked manned lunar landings.

As an aside, take a look at the footage of post-mission press conference and see how disinterested and ashamed Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin looked. Normal people simply won't act like that after a monumental success like having walked on the moon.

SGT BJH January 11, 2014 at 11:48 am

I read in the El Paso Times, we have a 2LT here at Ft. Bliss. Hey, do you think they'd take a 61 year old QM SGT? My family is VERY long lived. ;)

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SGT BJH January 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm

Whoever designs these ships needs to put the hamster cage wheel to keep bones strong. It worked for A.C. Clarke and 2001.

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onlyamerica January 11, 2014 at 2:20 pm

only american can going to mars without ussr russia..
NO NO ussr russia come with america to mars..
no thank ussr russia..
ussr russia can go venus and stay there

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Dawn January 11, 2014 at 2:48 pm

Think they should put money into saving this planet, where we belong, instead of continuing to wreck it with hopes of moving somewhere else!

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Ben January 12, 2014 at 1:28 pm

Overpopulation and food shortages are huge problems not necessarily associated with pollution. It's not as simple a fix as "ride your bike to work and recycle" there are other problems that necessitate that we expand outwards.

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William Stacy January 11, 2014 at 2:52 pm

When Columbus set sail, everyone knew the world was flat and everyone would fall off the edge and die. Will people die on the way to mars? Maybe. Will people die once they get to Mars. Most likely. If the governments get involved it will never happen or it will cost 10 times as much. It is all about the human spirit, the yearning to see what's over the hill. The need to explore the unknown. Is it for everyone? No. Remember. a lot of people that came to the new world, died, but they kept coming for their own personal reasons. I just wish I was in my 20's or 30's. I would sign up in an instant. What a wonderful adventure this will be.

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Matthew January 11, 2014 at 3:33 pm

When Columbus set sail most educated people knew the earth was round. This was discovered by Galileo and his papers were published after his death for fear of persecution. The issue with Columbus is he didn't realize there was a giant land mass between him and the East-Indies hence the name of the locals as Indians rather, than Native Americans. In addition many other civilizations knew the earth was not flat for centuries prior to Columbus's journey in 1492 such as: The Phoenicians, The Vikings w/ Eric the Red and Leaf Ericson who landed in Greenland and went as far south as New Newfoundland, the Polynesians, The Chinese, and even Egyptian reed boats from the time of the pyramids have been shown to have the capabilities of crossing the Atlantic.

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oblatt2 January 13, 2014 at 1:20 am

I think what Bill is trying to say is his relative thought it was flat and probably still do.

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guest January 11, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Let us first solve humanity's infinite capacity for nonsense :-P

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mrlee January 12, 2014 at 5:58 am

At what point do you say that you have solved humanities capacity for nonsense? There has to be that "line in the sand", or you will never reach that line in the sand. Exploration is done because people have questions, and are looking for answers. We are such a small part of this universe that there are many more questions about the universe, than our Earth.

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dan January 12, 2014 at 1:26 pm

Exactly what does "infinite" mean to you?

I'd say do it for a few millenniums and ask your question again.

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guest January 12, 2014 at 1:57 pm

What I meant (which I realize couldn't be inferred by my comment), was that it would be a much more of an enlightened idea to take the funding that would be going toward deeper space exploration/colonization and put it into education reform or even perhaps a marketing campaign to encourage people to tap into their own human potential, so people might become true intellectuals, not just geeks. For example, with a more intelligent human race people might not think colonizing Mars is the most exciting thing out there. Currently, isn't one of the most profound scientific breakthroughs the concept of adult neurogenesis? But hardly anybody has even heard of it? And if only the scholarly elites have heard of this, then that's what I'm mean by "solving humanity's infinite capacity for nonsense"… we should push humanity in the right direction… Perhaps my ideas are even more absurd than colonizing Mars, but that's why my comment was mostly made in cynicism. And by the way, I am only working on a bachelor's degree, but why should that matter? Having a degree doesn't necessarily make you the sharpest tool in the shed… That's part of the problem.

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Jeff January 12, 2014 at 10:38 am

We should remember that the new world was first settled by private enterprise. Jamestown, remember? The first settlers here were not all of the high caliber we would have liked them to be, but they were able to survive. They did forge a new nation. I see nothing wrong with doing the same on Mars. I just hope that they all remember history and are not destined to repeat it there. I would love to go there myself.

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dan January 12, 2014 at 1:02 pm

Don't equate "The New World" with Mars. The former is not a really a new world, but just another part of the Earth ignorant Europeans did not have a name for. The latter is an entirely different planet.

Life evolved on Earth, not Mars. Big difference.

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William Ewing January 12, 2014 at 11:30 pm

Meaningless. We rose to that challenge; we'll rise to this one.

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Upenn January 13, 2014 at 2:42 am

Your posts are meaningless. All development of large complex systems must go through a well-established progression of stages. False confidence and empty bravado's mean nothing to laws of physics.

Show me what successful tests they have completed for transporting supplies, equipment and humans to Mars.

2025 is only 11 years away from now.

Do have a heavy lift rocket ready? Do you know how long it normally takes to test a large rocket?

Paul January 11, 2014 at 4:29 pm

Maybe we can just send bill &hillary& an Obama to lead. Just send the dead wood welfare bums. Tell them they won a free trip from the government with new housing.

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Paul January 11, 2014 at 4:34 pm

The government will screw it up like obamacare, Medicare, social security, postal system etc.

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Ben January 12, 2014 at 1:22 pm

"Mars One is a program unaffiliated with any government…"

Couldn't even read past the first paragraph, could ya?

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Guest January 12, 2014 at 2:05 pm

Being unaffiliated with any government does NOT in and of itself constitutes a shield against government intervention and screw-ups.

You obviously are very inexperienced with the real world.

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Vanessa Harris January 11, 2014 at 5:29 pm

I would have liked this article to go into a bit more detail about why we are going to Mars. I am sure the potential benefits are limitless– but I would love to know what some of those benefits would be. Without that info, all I can feel is sadness for the families of the volunteers.

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mrlee January 12, 2014 at 6:12 am

Wouldn't you like to know about every experiment that has been done on board the space station? Maybe that is your problem? You are asking the wrong questions. Don't you think that they have worked out some of the problems for this trip, already? After all, we have had astronauts up there for over one year straight. And having worked in research and development in the military almost 50 years ago, I will trust to their secrecy.

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SGT BJH January 11, 2014 at 6:05 pm

I have a name for the first (especially if it is an all american crew) ship. The Susan Constance, she brought settlers to the James River to found Jamestown.

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Noneya January 14, 2014 at 10:54 pm

I think they were British…………..

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Candise January 11, 2014 at 10:51 pm

I don't want to go to space; I like just praying & finding my answers happening in the new star formations. Like yesterday when I went to purchase the Peter Pan peanut butter that I have wanted & always liked. I wondered if the new star formation seen in news today had anything to do with my praying? It did because they said on the news it looked like the Hand of God and near to it was a hook for Captain Hook.

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Lucent January 12, 2014 at 4:13 am

I guess the democrates are not satisfied that they have a dependent class of people here….not they want a dependent class of voters on Mars too…..geeezzzzz…..

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mrlee January 12, 2014 at 6:20 am

As people hit retirement age in the future, they will be put aboard these rockets to Mars with their travel papers. As you read through them and translate them, you find out that they are cook books for all nationalities.

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voodkokk January 12, 2014 at 9:37 am

Who ever is funding this should be fired today. We can't even take care of the people we have on earth.

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Ben January 12, 2014 at 1:20 pm

This is a privately funded operation and you should be applauding it. Most of humanity's upcoming problems can only be solved by expanding outwards beyond our planet.

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Guest January 12, 2014 at 2:06 pm

Nonsense.

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William Ewing January 12, 2014 at 11:33 pm

Ben's right, Guest, and you're a cynical fool.

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dan January 12, 2014 at 1:15 pm

I'm calling Mars One a ponzi scheme. The two Dutch "entrepreneurs" must have been big fans of the Tulip Mania.

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hibeam January 12, 2014 at 1:21 pm

The people who go first will do all the back breaking hard work. People looking for welfare will follow but they will still be compared to those who went first.

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Ben January 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm

Start a colony on Mars for half the cost of a Ford-Class carrier? Our priorities need to be re-assessed..

But I supposed if it were a government-run operation it would have to be criminally more expensive.

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Shakes January 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm

So much pessimism here! Worst case scenario they fail. Best case scenario a new age of human history and scientific advancement begins. Do you people go out on a sunny day and think "it's just going to rain eventually"?

There was another one-way colonization attempt into a difficult to inhabit area far from the comforts of civilization with the potential benefits not to catch up with the initial cost for years to come, only succeeding after numerous failures. It's called America.

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Bob January 12, 2014 at 3:55 pm

Humans cant live in low earth gravity for long periods of time. This has been proven on the ISS. If they want this to work, they will need artificial gravity provided by a centrifuge. Its expensive and complex and huge, but necessary.

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William Ewing January 12, 2014 at 11:35 pm

Um, they haven't really proven that for 38% G. We still don't know for sure, but it looks like it can be done; you just may never be able to return to Terra.

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hibeam January 12, 2014 at 10:09 pm

I'm only 29 Mars years old. Count me in.

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Manasseh Corder January 13, 2014 at 12:19 am
oblatt2 January 13, 2014 at 1:24 am

Pretty much a list of people who wouldn't pass the psych test to go to mars.

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mrlee January 13, 2014 at 4:05 am

Actually, since this is a one way trip, the space craft has to be part of the colony housing to start with, if you think of it. Otherwise, it just becomes space garbage.

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jim January 13, 2014 at 5:08 pm

Lets make it a prison planet!

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 9:01 pm

America already has the largest, most expensive yet crappiest prisons in the world.

You want to make Mars a prison planet because American prisons are not large enough? not expensive enough? not crappy enough? or a combination of the above?

By the way, American prisons and judicial systems are now among the worst human right violators in the world. Would you like to move the whole country to Mars?

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iLikeGuest January 13, 2014 at 10:37 pm
guest January 13, 2014 at 11:35 pm

good luck with this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Big-B January 14, 2014 at 2:55 am

1. its just a dutch tv show… but keep on bashing each other its great fun to read
2. if humankind would invest 10% of the energy some people here are wasting to tell us that a colony on mars will never become reality we would have been already there and back. i believe without the gwot and other useless adventures we would already see human outpost on moon and mars and some asteroids. but instead we stupid apes fight about some tiny ressources around some unknown asian islands and build expensive stealth fighters and aircraft carriers (on both sides) to secure our claim.

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Noneya January 14, 2014 at 10:55 pm

You know what they say? Money talks and Bullshit walks.

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Victor January 15, 2014 at 3:57 am
chief January 15, 2014 at 9:28 pm

I am not amazed at the stupidity some of our smartest people display. Just because you go to a prestigious school, doesn't automatically qualify you an expert in anything. Respect is earned by being right in a humble manner and often proves itself out over time through verifiable truth. Before one should make any claim as truth one should have the proof, that can be independently verified, at hand to gainsay nay-sayers, otherwise you will be perceived as a liar, never having the respect you want. Of course, espousing contrary information, just to be doing so, makes you appear to be an idiot and a fool, out to be heard only for the hearings sake.
Eventually, even a fool will realize his error (the electorates re-election of Obama is proof in the pudding), only, to late to repair the damage to their self-image among others, his peers.

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Paul January 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm

Mars sounds great. Mars Candy Company, that is!!!

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Guest January 22, 2014 at 4:12 am

Yes, but unfortunately they are talking about Mars Loony Company here.

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Francis January 16, 2014 at 12:00 am

I am retired from the military and now old. But I remember when everyone said that no one will ever get into space. No one will ever make it to the moon. A lot of man's adventures were from explorers that had the need to do something new. Columbus discovered America. The expansion into the west in the US. Many died but that never stopped the human need to look into something new. I think that it is grat that we still have adventures people out there and goint to Mars is a great idea if that is what the explorers want.

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Joseph S. Steward January 16, 2014 at 10:05 am
Lordlarry January 16, 2014 at 4:32 pm

Think about it. No taxes, no income, no Obama care , no one on welfare because if you don't work you don't eat. And best of all…no need for lawyers!

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Cathy B. January 16, 2014 at 8:32 pm

I think if we are going to settle Mars we are going to need an orbiting Space Station to send settlers' to for some R and R. The station will have to be like a mall and have all the fascilities available to prevent homesickness. No matter how well trained a person is R and R is necessary to keep their sanity. The station should also, have a state of the art hospital for those who become very ill and for delivering babies safely.

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LTC Allen ARvig January 17, 2014 at 11:37 am

I believe in having faith,hope and trust that we can do the hard things, I am grateful that Columbus didn't pay any attention to those who said he was dreaming. Going to Mars most likely have accidents and even loss of life, but with courage and determination, we can do live over come the most difficult problems. Retired Lt. Col. US Army

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Chuang Shyue Chou January 17, 2014 at 9:22 pm

There is a strong sense of unreality about Mars One. There are many unanswered questions about the entire enterprise, from that of the manned vehicle to the habitat to be built there. I am sceptical if this were not simply a pipe dream.

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Guest January 21, 2014 at 2:37 pm

They can name their colony Jamestown
Glad to see there are common man/woman explorers that are willing to pioneer such an effort. Like many who came to the New World 400-500 years ago, most did not expect to return, and these will not either. They may also die there earlier than expected, as the people in Jamestown did. That risk is the price of exploration and colonization, people will go, people will die on the way and while there.

Any grand venture in the beginning is fraught with risk and peril, want a comfy, safe, no risk existence? So did many others 400-500 years ago, and they did not come to the New World.

Let these folks go if they can raise the money and get there.

Having said

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Roland January 28, 2014 at 1:32 am

First thing to consider is safety. In driving you place safety the primary objective and concern. On space and outer space living, the question of : Is it livable? Then after sorting it out if the place does not support life then it is like jumping on a high rise building without a parachute. One thing to consider is if it is your life worth or that of your love one. That's my one cent

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Richard February 4, 2014 at 1:06 am

So, are we going to be dividing Mars up between nations or is a new nation going to be formed? I feel like America is claiming Mars here.

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Wayne February 6, 2014 at 4:01 pm

Well, I'm a high school senior and will be 29 in 2025 but I've done plenty of my research and come to find out; it's not a one way trip, ceramic bone replacements and other augmentations can override need for grim expectations. I've done a Mars Colonization research project looking into a lot of details, 3 options for Mars government; (from worse to best) 1, UN controls it, 2, US owns it, the natural tendency is a dependent state rebels and becomes, 3, an independent state.

So it's all good to go, just needs funding, resources, and possibly an anaphrodisiac in the food. NOT Saltpeter. That's a myth.

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TiddlyWinks February 15, 2014 at 3:58 pm

I have a feeling this will be the New Age "Big Brother…"

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Paul March 16, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Lets send everyone that works in Government from Washington DC….

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Ed April 4, 2014 at 11:33 am

That's what they used to say about going to the moon in ten years and we did it. Obamacare will take care of all!

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ziv January 11, 2014 at 8:07 am

The point is that they won't be relying entirely on NASA/Boeing/Pratt & Whitney, they will have companies like Spacex out there, champing at the bit and forcing the old folks to move faster and more economically.

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Guest January 11, 2014 at 12:21 pm

That's even more absurd.

You might as well argue that a private company would have won the Vietnam War if given a chance.

The technology is simply not there. Nor can a private company complete a single development-test cycle in 12 years for a spaceship to Mars.

And what does a HongKongCharlie know about space travel? Stick to stocks and real estate speculation.

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Guest January 11, 2014 at 3:36 pm

Google could put someone on Mars, but facebook couldn't.

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Guest January 12, 2014 at 1:13 am

Most of those who believe NASA actually landed men on the moon are uneducated sheeple and brainless idiots who believe whatever the government says.

Aerospace engineers, physicists or scientists worthy of the title, and intelligent people with true independent critical analysis skills would have little difficulty seeing through NASA's fake manned lunar landing videos and photos. Not all of them favor open criticism because of severe impact and repercussions on their career, research funding, and social life.

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JKD January 12, 2014 at 7:46 pm

Correct. NASA engineers didn't come close to being able to resolve build up of internal shock waves inside Saturn V with a full installment of engines. Such shock waves cause explosion and disintegration of the rocket in matter of seconds.

They cheated by reducing the number of rocket engines to lower the probability of an explosion on takeoff. But the resulting thrust was too small to lift everything needed for the mission.

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blight_ January 13, 2014 at 3:27 pm

Waiting for the PRC to disprove the moon landings in '69. They are very much in a position to do so if they so wanted to.

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Scott Hillard January 12, 2014 at 7:46 pm

Kook alert!!!!!!

My education background? I've got a double degree in psychology and education, so I'm pretty well-qualified when it comes to spotting nutters on the interwebs.

Don't take my word for it though, go put your theory to Buzz Aldrin in person. Read up on treating a nose bleed first, though….

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Taylor January 15, 2014 at 2:12 pm

So you don't believe NASA's Apollo program was real. Well you are young and naive and also a fool to think that way. For an educated person who is in a PhD program you don’t seem to be able to form a complete legible sentence. Study hard and get your high school diploma and then you can seek higher education.

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Jake January 13, 2014 at 10:52 am

In a country that cannot even keep secret a presidential knob job from an intern, you want to believe that hundreds of thousands of people successfully engaged in a 40+ year conspiracy to fake multiple moon landings?????
You going to claim the Soviets were in on the scam as well?
That the hundreds of scientists who measure the Earth-Moon distance regularly using the retroreflectors left on the Moon by Apollo 11, 14 and 15 are in on as well – faking their scientific data???
You are delusional – and IF you really are at MIT, it's only a matter of time before you find yourself in a rubber room.

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Bernard January 13, 2014 at 12:44 pm

Please educate yourself on the F1 rocket engine

"the F-1 was the largest and most powerful liquid-fueled engine ever constructed; even today, its design remains unmatched" http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-b

Official Fact Sheet http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/docume

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Bernard January 13, 2014 at 12:38 pm

I'm thinking F-20.x or F-21 in the ICD-10-CM….

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Bernard January 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm

I supplied two links. Regardless. You are right, logic doesn't work with crazy. I must be developmentally challenged to imagine otherwise… :-(

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 5:20 pm

Seems you should heed your own advice and educate yourself about Saturn V. Posting NASA links means nothing.

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Upenn January 13, 2014 at 2:28 pm

I don't hate to say it, but you are dumb. NASA's photos alone provide enough contradictions to make disbelievers out of intelligent people. Throw in the videos, the missing blueprints, the lack of technology as of today in landing a man on the moon.

You are a lay person and therefore in no position to challenge a trained engineer. You may repost NASA's claim as often as you like. But the fact remains you understand nothing except repeating BS like a robot.

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Bernard January 13, 2014 at 2:41 pm

Ok. Prove to me that you don't have schizophrenia.

If your evidence is more convincing than that of the moon landing, I will listen to you.

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Taylor January 18, 2014 at 10:14 pm

Who are the trained engineers … you clowns disputing the lunar landings don't know your ass from a moon rock. I doubt any of you disblievers have any education at all much less anything regarding engineering. You've watched a few conspiracy videos on youtube and now you are some kind of experts. The web is crawling with morons like you, you guys are pitiful.

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Bernard January 13, 2014 at 3:04 pm

As expected. Not very convincing… :-

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 6:38 pm

To be fair, if you ask him to prove that he doesn't have schizophrenia, you should first prove that you don't have schizophrenia.

Can you prove it?

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Upenn January 13, 2014 at 4:02 pm

I'm sure the PRC has got better things to do than disproving something that has already been conclusively established by NASA records alone.

To this very day, the US does not have a rocket capable of safely landing 2 astronauts on the moon and returning back to earth.

It took NASA over a decade to do the shuttles with a much lower lift after having allegedly completed Saturn V. Why? Because Saturn V never reached the lift as claimed.

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 5:26 pm

They won't say a thing even if they know it was fraud. Why would they? For one thing, most people in this country are so stupid and brainwashed that few would recognize the facts no matter how obvious the facts are.

We are talking about a country where a brainless president can get away with saying something like "the Muslims attack us because they hate our freedom".

You've got to be an outsider to see just how pathetic the US population have become.

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Guest January 13, 2014 at 5:19 pm

Jake, what else are you good at besides writing rubbish and personal attacks?

You did not address JKD's post directly. You don't know a thing about the destructive shock waves and the number of engines used on Saturn V. And you call JKD delusional? Whether it was technically feasible to land 2 astronauts on the moon depends on technology, not your BS about "hundreds of thousands of people" and "retroreflectors". Spare us of your BS please. Thank you.

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Thomas L. Nielsen January 14, 2014 at 1:55 am

Then please, enlighten us: Explain why and how "destructive shock waves and the number of engines" make the Apollo moon missions technically non-feasible.

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg

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Jake January 14, 2014 at 11:41 am

Saturn V had five engines – hence the designation.
pogo was an issue, especially with Apollo 6 and apparently with 13, which had much bigger problems. but it didn't prevent successful launches – I personally saw 17 launch and can testify they were sending some really big rocket someplace.

As for the rest, why throw facts at someone incapable of using them logically?

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Jake January 14, 2014 at 2:18 pm

There is a significant difference between designing and building a single-use expendable launch and recovery system and a reusable 'truck' designed for a number of different missions.

And most of the STS delays had more to do with funding than engineering.

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Taylor January 15, 2014 at 10:48 am

Google is Cyberdyne Systems ….

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loeb January 15, 2014 at 10:59 pm

To explain that would require a couple of semester's worth of time and effort.

You will just have to settle for this: The F-1 engines, even if working perfectly together, would not have provided adequate lift if the astronauts were to be adequately shielded against radiation while inside the Van Allen Belts.

The Saturn vehicle also combustion instability due to build up of shock waves generated by the F-1 engines, which caused explosions during tests.

In the end, there was clear evidence that NASA cheated by using less powerful engines for the real Apollo launches and simply added fuel to the jet stream to make the exhaust look big. However, while they could increase the size of the exhaust, they couldn't alter its color and appearance. Instead of a white hot jet stream (see Chinese rocket launches), the Apollos' was red with long, relatively slow fluttering flames (ie, it was fuel rich; think of it as adding a flame thrower just for the show).

But one doesn't need to know all this to see the fraud involved. As some posters have pointed out, NASA's pictures and videos have provided ample evidence of fraud. There is more than one way to prove fraud. Of course, one does need to be somewhat intelligent and educated. I understand that many, if not most of the posters are not smart enough for this.

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loeb January 15, 2014 at 11:08 pm

The Saturn vehicle also ** suffered from ** combustion instability …

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Thomas L. Nielsen January 16, 2014 at 1:58 am

"You will just have to settle for this" – will I, now?

"The F-1 engines, even if working perfectly together, would not have provided adequate lift" – evidence?

"there was clear evidence that NASA cheated by using less powerful engines" – which evidence?

"Of course, one does need to be somewhat intelligent and educated" – nice try. Now where's the evidence?

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg

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Thomas L. Nielsen January 16, 2014 at 8:30 am

Oh, come on. You mean you never hear of eggplants? [tiddy boom].

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg

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Frank February 27, 2014 at 1:53 pm

I also don't think man walk on the moon because of one major mistake the US government made. Remember the lander and the command module from the Apollo missions. Can anyone tell me where they put the car size rover. Only the lander actually landed and believe me when i tell you that there was no place for that huge rover. So If the lied about that mission then they lied about the whole thing. The ground crew where not aware of the deception.

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Donald Banks April 11, 2014 at 6:05 am

That's rather easy to answer! The Descent Stage was a octagonal shaped structure which housed the spherical fuel tanks in the front & side bays, Descent Engine in the center, and storage bays in the 'corners' for a lack of a better word. Those bays held the instruments the Astronauts placed on the moon, and on the last few missions, one of them held the folded up Rover.

Yes, the Rover was foldable, as it was pretty much some aluminum tubing, batteries, & lawn chairs. The fact they managed to get it all to fold up small enough to fit in the storage bay is the real technological achievement of the Rover. As for being Car-sized, not quite, just makes for an easy reference.

Hope I got you to at least rethink your position on the Lunar Landings, your concern did have merit, unlike the loons down below with self-destructing rockets on launch… Saturn V's a bloody 2KT nuke if it blew up near launch…. NO HIDING THAT!

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