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U.S. Plans to Build a Stealth Dirt Bike

by Mike Hoffman on April 15, 2014

{filenamebase}U.S. military leaders have approved funding to develop a hybrid, stealth motorcycle to be driven by special operations teams in the not too distant future.

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has issued a grant to integrate a multiple fuel, hybrid-electric power plant into a dirt bike built by BRD Motorcycles.  The hybrid electric engine will be built by Logos Technologies.

DARPA leaders forsee an electric bike that can drive for an extended range while producing nearly zero engine noise. 

“Quieted, all-wheel-drive capability at extended range in a lightweight, rugged, single-track vehicle could support the successful operations of U.S. expeditionary and special forces in extreme terrain conditions and contested environments,” said Wade Pulliam, manager of advanced concepts at Logos Technologies. “With a growing need to operate small units far from logistical support, the military may increasingly rely on adaptable, efficient technologies like this hybrid-electric motorcycle.”

A hybrid drive system would offer the bike more range than a purely electric system. This will be the first time a hybrid drive system is incorporated onto a motorcycle, a Logos official said.

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andy April 15, 2014 at 3:48 pm

you mean electrical Bike….and this is for ?…waste of money…spend money wisely no wonder we keep getting defense cut….I wonder who is incharge weapons program…this people should be fire….


NakedWeasel April 15, 2014 at 3:56 pm

You do realize that "hybrid" means gas combustion as well as electric power? My guess is that English is not your first language.


andy April 15, 2014 at 4:38 pm

and what the purpose for this bike? all I see is comment about my ENGRISH.


tiger April 15, 2014 at 8:01 pm

Andy, think hard. Would you like to walk 50 miles or ride? You may have a mission where a chopper is not a option & a humvee too much a vehicle.


andy April 16, 2014 at 12:05 pm

I do aware of this mission but the Bike would not work in the Jungle and desert are too hot for the bike to be effective batterry will drain in the desert.

wade April 17, 2014 at 10:38 am

Issue them a horse or mule. In a lot of locales, that would help them blind in.

notmyname April 16, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Could have been handy in Mogadishu.


Andy April 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm


blight_ April 17, 2014 at 11:19 am

Considering the problems unarmored Humvees and trucks had in Mogadishu, going lighter is unlikely to result in a better outcome.

Mr Twitch April 16, 2014 at 3:28 pm

Great Idea but since the gov is involved, you’ll probably get one for the price of two. Economy of scale issues.

Motos already being used

Kawi KLR
There’s even diesel version. Also an all-fuel version and an electric version


Boomerhog April 16, 2014 at 11:40 pm

NAked weezer,

Doesnt have to be gasoline combustion.. think outside the box and think fuel cell. WTF, It’s time to bring those into use.


blight_ April 17, 2014 at 11:21 am

So you want to carry H2 and O2 tanks around? Those are generally well armored to prevent accidents, increasing weight. Remember what a spark in an O2 tank did to Apollo 13, and it doesn't have to fit in a motorcycle that is being shot at.

A small diesel generator, or something APU-sized to charge the batteries will do fine. Not sure if a Sterling engine would have appropriate power density. The other option is a rotary. Two stroke might be loud and smell obvious.


ChrisB April 19, 2014 at 12:02 pm

A continuously running Stirling cycle is fine. The purpose of this bike is to ride short ranges, then talk to / shoot at the locals.

Stirling can also run off kerosene lamp oil, cooking oil, or whatever you find in the field.

Dr. Horrible April 15, 2014 at 4:32 pm

andy, you can find more about what the "electrical Bike" is for at this link: http://defensetech.org/2014/04/15/pentagon-wants-…. Paragraphs 3, 4, and 5 should give you a good start.


Fred Brown April 16, 2014 at 3:14 pm

You see we have this thing called technology which will hopefully address such things. Besides it's better than spending billions on useless projects like the Littoral Combat Ship, the F-35 paperweight, the F-22 loser, etc.


bob April 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm

Someone should fire your english teacher


Ronnie April 26, 2014 at 9:33 pm

How is your second or third language going. Forgot, food stamps etc, dead dollar revolving. Whomever it is I am impressed by their effort. If it is a Chinese military unit, you are going undetected lads.


fig spk April 15, 2014 at 4:23 pm

Why not throw in a Stealth Skateboard and a Stealth Helmet.

One can never underestimate the IQ of these American morons.


Joshua April 16, 2014 at 10:12 am

Many in our government morons? Sure. Still leading the curve in military tech, ludacris to generalize, you ignorant piece of nothing.


oblatt22 April 16, 2014 at 1:40 pm

Not really, you'd be hard pressed to name a defense technology that we are the leaders of or is even effective, these days


ttablo April 16, 2014 at 2:42 pm

Aircraft Carriers, Cruisers, Destroyers, Long Range Bombers, SSBN´s, hypersonic weapons, cyberweapons, military transports…those without doubt, and arguably, many more.


peters April 16, 2014 at 2:45 pm

Not many, but MOST (95% or more) in US government are morons.

Leading the curve in military tech? You don't have a clue about European military tech or anything else. You can't even spell "ludicrous". Many in America are starving and homeless, and yet the US government borrows hundreds of billions every year from China, Japan etc to expand the already bloated military. You pride in that?

And you call others "ignorant piece of nothing"? How ironic and ludicrous!!


TXMaverick April 18, 2014 at 9:49 am

This coming from a guy who write "You pride in that?"
Pot calling the kettle black I'd say.


grant April 18, 2014 at 4:13 pm

He / she forgot to type "take". No big deal. we all miss a word or two sometimes. He's right in what he's saying.

DontBringMeDown April 19, 2014 at 2:29 pm

Europe is still scrambling from the depth of information invasion by the NSA…I mean, do you read much? There's very little in the digital world that the US doesn't have information on. I understand the detraction to a point, but include just a little objective focus.

As far as overall tech goes – the hypersonic vehicles traveling at mach 20 and the rail gun that will vastly increase naval combat range may be game changers for a couple decades..thank goodness that Chinese-fueled debt isn't callable..

On the stealth bike – it's genius. Silent, fast, ground based vehicles that enable individual off-road maneuvering as opposed to concentrating presence in one vehicle. You're giving the best-trained warriors on the planet greater capability to shape the combat zone to their favor.


Snowden Rocks April 21, 2014 at 12:56 pm

Stealth bike? Genius? LOL. Genius salesmanship for the crooks! But then as fig spk says, the average IQ of Americans is so low, even the most mediocre salesman can sell the whatever rubbish the crooks have in store.

As for your so-called best-trained warriors, I think you mean using Stealth Crack Pipes. Perhaps you are even better at it than they are..

meow April 16, 2014 at 5:39 pm

Joshua, what does "ludacris" mean? I can't find it in the dictionary.

By the way I think it's fair to say that many in our government are morons. In fact, I'd say they are worse than morons.


madskilz48 April 16, 2014 at 2:30 pm

How about talking to Harry Potter about a stealth cloth he used. Why aren't they going to a motorcycle company or even several to develop a bike for them. No, lets give it to someone with connections who will learn on the US dime.


grant April 17, 2014 at 1:09 pm

I wouldnt be surprised if they have already talked to Harry Potter. The Brits have developed something like that. I am sure the US military will beg to buy the tech from them.


meow April 16, 2014 at 5:45 pm

good one fig spk.

while we are at it, let's complete the package with stealth water bottle, stealth snack container, stealth gloves, stealth knee-pads, stealth shoes, stealth visor, stealth spare tire, stealth swiss army knife.

as for morons, don't forget the entire body of American taxpayers, because they will be the one footing the bill eventually.


grant April 17, 2014 at 1:15 pm

Dont forget Stealth Condoms and Stealth Crack Pipes.


Teacher April 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm

If US troops are going to be killing people in small, poor third world countries, they don't need stealth on anything. If they are trying to do the same against a big country like Russia or China, their stealth technology is a joke. Might as well give them regular diapers and cheapest possible crack pipes, as they will being sh!tting a lot and inhaling a lot.


English Superior May 14, 2014 at 3:01 pm

Too far


Mike Miller April 18, 2014 at 2:33 am

Says the douchebag pounding on a technology brought to you by American Morons..


Giveitarest April 18, 2014 at 4:11 pm

Why so many down votes on post by fig spk? Did he say something wrong?


ide April 21, 2014 at 6:19 pm

Well, he spoke the truth and mocked the stupidity of the US military and the government.

You know what happens when you don't sugar-coat the hard truth to people with lowly negligible IQs and highly sensitive egos.


Taylor April 15, 2014 at 5:23 pm

I am sure the Chinese will get right to work on one now that they know our intentions.


andy April 15, 2014 at 5:42 pm

Nothing new here… waste of money


andy April 15, 2014 at 5:42 pm

Save all this money and buuy more F22…


Mick April 16, 2014 at 4:35 pm

Cut that program, and maybe save enough to buy one landing gear for an F22…


009 April 15, 2014 at 6:13 pm

Put a captured OMAR on the back of a dirt bike—-really! How about a stealth HUMMBEE


Surfer Girl April 15, 2014 at 9:26 pm

Captured Omar? Are like Serious? My guess is if a squad of Navy Seals rolls up on Omar his only option would be one to the chest and one to the head. Its more like nice catch not capture.


oblatt22 April 16, 2014 at 1:47 pm

Much more likely that the republicans will sign a trade deal with the Taliban in 2025 with full diplomatic recognition. Of course it will be a minor benefit sine the Chinese will have wrapped up most of the country already.

Something to consider when you're bleeding out in the kush.


blight_ April 16, 2014 at 4:15 pm

Vietnam's our "friend" too.


Lance April 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm

A stealth bike OK this Stealth crap is getting out of hand. You can hide from radar but every one can still see you bike. Do we need more cuts to kill these programs of idiocy.


Stahlhelm April 15, 2014 at 10:01 pm

Note the following sentence

"DARPA leaders forsee an electric bike that can drive for an extended range while producing NEARLY ZERO ENGINE NOISE."

Do ya get it now? Or you can't hear me over 'STEALTH IS CRAP CAUSE I THINK SO!"?


Reginald_DC April 16, 2014 at 5:20 am

I guess in this case STEALTH means SILENT, not INVISIBLE TO RADARS, which is not sooooo stupid if you think about it. And I guess developing such a bike wouldn't need soooooo much money, too.


blight_ April 16, 2014 at 11:06 am

Indeed, which is why they could give out rusty Japanese mopeds with a "stealth" rust job to blend in, along with rusty Toyota Hilux and Land Cruisers that are "stealth" mode inconspicuous. Stealth beards, stealth robes and stealth niqabs to conceal operators to and from the target.

Who needs uniforms? The Geneva Convention is dead and done for.


Jim April 16, 2014 at 11:39 am

Stealth basically means to avoid detection. Submarines try to be stealthy in an acoustical environment by keeping noise levels to a minimum. Aircraft try to be stealthy in an electromagnetic environment by not reflecting radar energy back to a reciever. A stealth motorcycle would need to be stealthy in a visual and acoustical environment, which means being quiet, and breaking up outlines so that the shape of a motorcycle does not stand out.


blight_ April 15, 2014 at 6:50 pm

Need stealth tanks more than stealth bikes.


Michael April 15, 2014 at 6:57 pm

can they fire their weapons while biking??


tiger April 16, 2014 at 5:28 am

Plan on drive by shooting somebody? Sure, they could.


hibeam April 15, 2014 at 7:20 pm

Drones are so incredibly effective. And yet we can not stop building stupid things to set off IEDs. How about aerial refueling for drones. Drones that perch and stare. And turn the damn things loose and quit holding them back. There is a target rich environment in Pakistan and everyone knows it.


john doe June 28, 2014 at 3:21 pm

have being deployed with drones 95% of them suck, only the classified ones are worth anything


Megaforce April 15, 2014 at 7:34 pm

MegaForce comes to mind when bikes and battlefields are mentioned.


FormerDirtDart April 16, 2014 at 1:08 am

"The Losers" come to mind for me. http://wrongsideoftheart.com/wp-content/gallery/p


d. kellogg April 17, 2014 at 8:29 am

Admiral watches Streetfighter movie, gets pie-in-the-sky pipe dreams of high tech stealth boghammer streetfighter stealth ship and we get LCS.

General watches Megaforce and petitions DARPA and def. cons. to build stealth bikes.
For another billion bucks they promise it will fly.
For another billion it gets ABM capability like the snowmobile in GI Joe.


spidennis April 15, 2014 at 8:13 pm

Enduro bikes like the Yamaha WR250F (like I have) can go pretty much anywhere and do it quickly. Look at the Dakar Rally for more examples. But what they want is something not noisy , and that is what they are referring to as "stealth". That word is way over used! They want to combine a gas engine (or diesel) with an electric motor. I see this as a very overweight machine which becomes difficult to handle with a limited range. Prove me wrong, PLEASE!!!!


tiger April 16, 2014 at 5:26 am

That is what DARPA does everyday. Prove the impossible is possible.


spidennis April 16, 2014 at 2:37 pm

In my next post a couple down from this one I have a link that explains that two companies are already well into making this a reality. I'm on board for a fleet of them!


Benjamin April 15, 2014 at 8:23 pm

What's stealth about the bike is the lack of noise. In many places 3rd world the noise from a motorcycle is a dead give away of someone coming a quiet bike in this case makes sense


spidennis April 15, 2014 at 8:24 pm

a little googling of the bike company listed in the article here brings me this : http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/brd-motorcyc… so it seems they are already developing this concept, I'll take a fleet of them thank you.


oblatt22 April 15, 2014 at 9:11 pm

A noiseless motorbike is a dead giveaway that the rider is an American. Perhaps they should carry an unfurled stars and stripes just to make sure.

But the real advantage is the cost in Asymmetrical warfare where we pay many times the cost to achieve many times less effect.


tiger April 16, 2014 at 4:46 pm

What, the 6 ft blue eyed white guy with buzz cut hair & M-4 did not scream "Yankee?"


Snowden Rocks April 21, 2014 at 1:08 pm

Don't worry, there is no way in hell American engineers can produce a noiseless motorbike. They can't change laws of Physics. The best these filthy politicians can do is convince the tax payers that it can be done, or that it's of any value in a war. That's not hard considering how dumb the average Americans are.


Joey Byden April 15, 2014 at 10:53 pm

Now if we can just spend a few billions to make it also fly and operate as a swimmer delivery vehicle, then we will have something cool!


Chuang Shyue Chou April 15, 2014 at 11:41 pm

How much value is there in operations for a motorcycle? Marginal I suspect. Buy it off the shelf.


tiger April 16, 2014 at 5:22 am

Scout Sniper teams. You have just given them a quiet way to Enter a area other than walking. You can carry more gear farther on a bike. You now have a quick mode of egress in both the field or urban setting. A chopper LZ may not be close by or Possible.


muttling April 16, 2014 at 4:04 pm

Yep, we've deployed snipers on motorcycles in the past and it was very effective. Grenada is a primary example of this. On a frightening note, the Iranians have motorcycle mounted RPG-7 teams.


Da_Bunny April 16, 2014 at 12:18 am

SCUD hunters, rejoice!


ShamWowed April 16, 2014 at 12:58 am

Lot of love on this site. Two companies that I know of currently build E-Bikes Zero and Brammo. Maybe Darpa won't waste your precious tax dollars on dev work afterall?


tiger April 16, 2014 at 5:07 am

Nice,BUT………….. As pure electrics, where do you plug in to recharge in the field? That is why a hybird is a better option.


ShamWowed April 17, 2014 at 3:24 pm

No disagreement here.
Mainly commenting on collective butt-hurt bean counters going nuts over what their superior intelligence suggests as just another waste of money.

I am curious what the internet warrior types consider a waste of funds when their loved ones are on the front lines?


Alexander April 16, 2014 at 1:19 am

Yep…for us non military types: stealth = quite in city…
Plus the torque of a E-bike with the range of an ICE as well as having either motor as a back up in case one breaks.
The ICE will be smaller than it would otherwise have to be ( because the power of ICE and Electric can be used together…) and less batteries will be needed ( because a HUGE range as in a convential E-Bike is not needed) so the additional weight of the E-Power setup will not increase the weight (much) above a equivalent pure ICE.
Lots of modes are possible: ICE only – Electric only – ICE/Electric – ICE only while charging batteries – ICE charging batteries while stationary…
I wonder if I can build one (for myself) before anyone else can?


inside man April 16, 2014 at 10:52 am

omg, i can see the opening to Zero Dark Thirty 2 already, special forces riding motor bikes through the Russian Wilderness while doing tricks lol


S O April 16, 2014 at 11:30 am

(1) Simple solution; add a meant-for-bicycles e-motor to the frontwheel for an easy 2wd. About 0.4 hp power is enough to move quietly, and at a useful speed. https://www.superpedestrian.com/
Cope with the increased mass of the spring mounted fore wheel.

(2) Simpler solution; some old bikes had actual pedals, allowing for the rider to pedal the bike forward without the engine. Stuff still works, particularly if you don't go for a really heavy bike (which will be a pain to ride offroad without very much upper body strength and experience anyway).


majr0d April 17, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Simpler solution, mufflers…


MilMotoXr April 16, 2014 at 12:09 pm

Is this dirtbike for getting from point A to point B and back to A quietly? Could there be a possibility of a gunfight while on this dirtbike? My biggest issue here is for right handed shooters. Throttle is on the right, majority of shooters are right handed. Human body only has 1 right arm. Your 3 choices are, roll off the throttle to shoot your firearm, keep throttle on or shoot with your weak arm. Not sure if a specialized hybrid dirtbike will help much especially with all the budget cuts happening around us.


peters April 16, 2014 at 2:55 pm

Well, those idiots may try to ride the bike upside down. A working design might cost a few hundred billion and 15-20 years, but hey, it's worth it if the US military orders a few million bikes every 5 years.


Brett Weeks April 17, 2014 at 9:22 am

In WW II, they switched the throttle to the left side on military bikes for that very reason.


Tribulationtime April 16, 2014 at 12:34 pm

Let aside cheap way vs american (expensive) way. I think there is a tactical niche for that. Night convoy flank screening. Base security, meaning attack mortar and rocket sites. Something like long-range-infantry-style. Maybe


N_3letters April 16, 2014 at 1:40 pm

I would suggest that they mean "stealthy" (ie, noiseless) rather than "stealth", but still….


SJE April 16, 2014 at 2:34 pm

They already make hybrid-electric pedal bikes, with the electric power being to increase speed or carry additional loads.


TAJ_CE April 18, 2014 at 11:00 am

I was hoping someone would bring that up. There are models that can be adjusted to put from 75 to 1000 watts of power assist, with 400 to 500 watts being enough to pull about 300 pounds unassisted from pedalling. Instead of tying the bike to a fuel source and limiting range why not use a pedal assisted bike. I know the currently available models would need to be beefed up and strengthened or armored but pedal assisted seems like a cheaper solution to the problem then building a hybrid engine onto a bike that will scream American everywhere you go.


blight_ April 18, 2014 at 2:50 pm

A Bakfiets cargo bike with electric propulsion would be pretty good at getting weight off of people's backs, as would any number of cargo bike attachments. Any vehicle should be a sufficient multiplier to justify carrying its weight around if need be: a bicycle is light and expendable and not as fast, even with electric assist modes, a motorbike is fast and perhaps a little expensive.


SJE April 16, 2014 at 2:35 pm

How about a horse?


tiger April 16, 2014 at 5:02 pm

Ever drop a horse from a V-22? Horses need food, water, need vet care, stables & make PETA bitch.


wer April 16, 2014 at 2:35 pm

The comments posted on this site show a staggering level of ignorance about what a motorcycle is used for in war.


S O April 16, 2014 at 11:20 pm

* courier/messenger
* MP (traffic control)
* parading (escorting VIP, often done by paramilitary or police forces, depending on country)
* site/route recce in ‘rear’ areas

Many are under influence of recent conflicts where motorbikes were used to shadow Western forces, for general off-road movement on mostly hard soil and for (less visible) general courier purposes.


Jack April 16, 2014 at 3:39 pm

I used to have a stealth moped. It was not built that way, but then again the POS would not start.


mondawg April 16, 2014 at 8:59 pm

If it is electric, it is green and good for the environment. It will be worth every penny no matter how many billions it costs if it will help forestall global warming.


Robert white April 16, 2014 at 10:27 pm

Always finding new ways to blow a dollar.


William Hayes April 17, 2014 at 1:00 am

The U. S. Army should have reinvented the Cavalry concept during Iraq and Afghanistan missions, a lot of IED wounded and dead could have been prevented with
independently mobile soldiers IE Indians Wars.teams of soldiers on motorcycles could have pursued and defeated roaming terrorists and Alqueda. As far as Controls, it is electric the controls could, dual, adjustable for the soldier and weapons could be mounted and computer controlled ala James Bond. Bike riders would not have to stay on potentially IED mined trails and roads. A rocket launcher might be effective against a bike but not units of bikes.


Steve April 17, 2014 at 1:42 am

What we really need is a stealth Segway towing a howitzer.


Roguemark April 17, 2014 at 3:45 am

I guess some people will bitch about anything without doing any research on what they are whining about. The military have been developing "stealthy" vehicles for years, tracked and wheel…electric and hybrid…so a bike is no surprise. As stated in other comments, many companies have been developing and refining "stealthy" vehicles for commercial/private use, especially for highly urban areas where pollution and noise are restricted.


ShamWowed April 21, 2014 at 9:05 pm

Easy Mark, I would hate for logic to be introduced in the bash fest.


Ronnie Pond April 17, 2014 at 7:36 am

For your information .You do not drive a bike. you ride it. It takes balance to control it .And in rough terrain it is not an easy task. even worst then dirt courses that people ride in compactions. because of the rocks, boulders, soft and hard surfaces.


majr0d April 17, 2014 at 1:51 pm

Shhhhh, no one mention mufflers…


Brett Weeks April 17, 2014 at 2:20 pm

I know when they experimented with dirt bikes back in the '80s at Fort Lewis as part of the 9th ID "high tech test bed", they had a lot of maintenance/loss problems because of field use & abuse. Commanders also didn't like the idea of Spc4 Joe Snuffy bombing around the battlefield on his personal motocross bike. They also considered giving ground cav units dirt bikes to carry in the M-3 Scout version of the Bradley, but that never went anywhere either. Hopefully, the spec ops people act more "grown-up" with their bikes.


Joe Coleman April 17, 2014 at 7:26 pm

This reminds me of the time, I worked as a civilian employee at Incirlik AB, Turkey, when Desert Storm kicked off, I was ordered to place camo to cover the control tower and the base power plant. I mentioned that this would not cover the IR from the power plant, the word was do it, the first night after I completed the job, I went by the tower and the beacon was shining brightly through my Camo. As the Thais say,"my pin lai", not to worry easy for me! Joe Coleman, Air Commando 64-65.


bart April 17, 2014 at 9:57 pm

Will there be a three versions, one for every service, built around the same basic model to save money? The navy needs one that has a tailhook for carrier ops.


jamesb April 17, 2014 at 10:20 pm

certified BS…….

goes with the mech dog and other wastes of money….


grant April 18, 2014 at 4:21 pm

yep. It's robbery in broad day light by the government on behalf of the defense industry. More creative BS acquisitions coming. The US government guarantees it.


ide April 22, 2014 at 5:42 pm

wait till they try to make a "noiseless mechanical dog" ride this "noiseless bike"

I predict a "winged noiseless bike promotion" sometime down the road.


darth cheney April 18, 2014 at 2:12 pm

Just create the plans and let the Chinese steal them, produce it and then we can purchase it from them far Cheaper than what a US company can do it for – AND it will probably work .


Snowden Rocks April 19, 2014 at 6:50 pm

They don't copy rubbish ideas and expensive junks.


Richard Spalding April 21, 2014 at 10:07 am

ummm why not use horses?


tiger April 21, 2014 at 7:43 pm

See my reply to SJE.


tiger April 23, 2014 at 8:38 pm

Horses belong on tracks being bet on. Not in war. You can not put them on a Blackhawk or even a V-22. They need food, water, vet care, stables, handlers, nor have the speed or endurance of a bike.


Rhys F April 23, 2014 at 4:12 am

Try self-fueling and recyclable, not to mention self-reproducing… AKA the HORSE. and maybe issue them to CAVALRY units?


Mark Varry April 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm

They will probably try to reinvent the wheel instead of improving on the Kawasaki derived M1030B1 multi fuel diesel scout bikes in service now.


Linda May 7, 2014 at 2:44 pm

The plume of dust from the tires is a giveaway.


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banthafodder May 24, 2014 at 3:17 am

So someone at darpa saw an old episode of streethawk…


Jon May 28, 2014 at 7:53 am

Fuck that, I want a hoverboard from back to the future. a disposable $100K two wheel drive electric dirtbike with 50 mile range? why not. nothing compared to the waste at the VA…


Cassidy Jennings May 29, 2014 at 11:38 am

Iv'e been looking for a new and clever way to sneak around my house at night, and I think I just found it! I would write a long diatribe about all the benefits of having one is but to be honest I just want one because shutup.


Cassidy Jennings May 29, 2014 at 11:43 am

You come in my house at night bring a spotlight. You might see me seated on this sitting on the top of the kitchen cabinets GLARING AT YOUR SOUL …with my light up eyes.



Clint Notestine April 15, 2014 at 6:42 pm

not sure its possible to peddle a 700+lbs motorcycle very far


Joey Byden April 15, 2014 at 10:56 pm

The could get Boston Dynamic's mule robot to sit on it and pedal it!


Hunter76 April 16, 2014 at 8:29 am

A stealth moped?


FormerDirtDart April 15, 2014 at 7:29 pm

"700+lbs motorcycle"?????
Not sure you know much about off-road motorcycles.


blight_ April 16, 2014 at 11:05 am

Pull the specs for the civilian version.

Considering these bikes are still pre-order the numbers are vaporware. To start:

The law enforcement one is probably more rugged, which makes it a decent starting point for a military bike. Weight ~295 pounds, it's likely a military version will weigh more. Using the LEO ones as a start would be nice.


Clint Notestine April 16, 2014 at 10:49 am

let me spell this out for you – 500, for the bike as a rough estimate with the extra batteries involved in hybrid) + 250 for the soldier and gear and that equals over 700lbs


FormerDirtDart April 16, 2014 at 10:51 am

So, you're backtracking on your original ignorant statement now?
Just want to make sure.


Ruger April 16, 2014 at 3:33 pm

You made my day! But… they would be very use on BLM missions against pesky over grazing ranchers who don't pay the boss. I see a testing opportunity…


rt841 April 17, 2014 at 7:55 am

Clint I get what you are saying. It doesn't make sense to bike with a bunch of gear on.


majr0d April 17, 2014 at 1:44 pm

Actually it's been done many times…


DontBringMeDown April 21, 2014 at 1:04 pm

Way to not even address any of the points I made…

You do your side of whatever argument you think there is a lot of favor. I dare you to try something not ad hominem.



Snowden Rocks April 21, 2014 at 2:25 pm

You made some "points" in your post? Gosh you must have applied really good Stealth technology, coz I sure couldn't find any of your points. LOL.


DontBringMeDown April 22, 2014 at 7:20 pm

You mean like NSA having access to the trove of European data?

Or the fact that missile technology is going to forever be changed by hypersonic vehicles? The dramatic increase in naval range by the rail gun?

Or the fact that a bike doesn't have to be on a road and if it's quiet, you won't hear/see them coming?

Yes let's not dispute any of those minor things. Continue trading meaningless insults, though – seems to work well for fragile minds.


peters April 29, 2014 at 1:33 pm

those are not "points", but irrelevant wet dreams and wishful thinking.


redbeard33 April 30, 2014 at 12:13 pm

Hey, here's an idea: let's let internet denizens dictate tactical insertion policy to SOF warriors.


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