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Navy Arms, Upgrades Fire Scout UAS

by Kris Osborn on June 10, 2014

FireScoutArmedThe Navy is adding weapons and a new maritime search radar to Fire Scout drone, a helicopter-like vertical take-off UAS now conducting tests aboard the Littoral Combat Ship, service officials said.

The weapons being added to the Fire Scout are part of a program that fires laser-guided 2.75 inch, folding-fin rockets called Advanced Kill Precision Weapons System, or APKWS. Using laser guidance to paint and pinpoint targets for the Fire Scout, APKWS was able to conduct successful land-based test firings, said Capt. Patrick Smith, program manager for multi-mission tactical unmanned air systems.

“We’ve demonstrated an ability to designate and shoot APKWS from Fire Scout. The next-step is ship based testing,” Smith said.

Ship testing, however, is on hold due to ship availability, Navy officials said.

The live-fire testing for APKWS and Fire Scout took place at Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake, Calif. The Navy is considering having the Fire Scout MQ-8B fire APKWS rockets over the sea sometime in the future, he added.

In fact, while over-the-sea APKWS testing is uncertain for the MQ-8B, the Navy is planning to test APKWS on its newer, larger variant of the Fire Scout, the MQ-8C, in 2015, service officials said.

Meanwhile, a new radar, slated to deploy on the Fire Scout aboard the USS Fort Worth (LCS 3) in 2015, will greatly extend the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, or ISR, range of the aircraft, Smith explained.

The existing electro-optical and infrared cameras on the Fire Scout have a range of six-to-ten miles, whereas the new maritime radar will be able to find targets at ranges out to 80 nautical miles, Smith said.

The radar, which can bring a ten-fold increase in surveillance range to the ship, is a commercial product built by a firm called Telephonics, Smith said.

The Navy is currently testing the radar on the MQ-8B Fire Scout at Patuxent River Naval Air Station, Md.

“The maritime search radar is not oriented specifically toward ASW (anti-submarine warfare) but it does have capability against smaller targets,” Smith said.

The Fire Scout is also slated to receive a new mine-detection sensor for littoral waters by 2017 called the Coastal Battlefield Reconnaissance and Analysis, or COBRA, Smith said.

Detecting mines with the Fire Scout in order to keep the LCS and its crew at a safe distance is COBRA’s primary function, however it will also be able to detect submarines near the surface, Smith said.

“We maintain surface surveillance capability, so if there is an acoustic detection Fire Scout would be able to confirm that it was surface contact. If there is a submarine on the surface we’d be able to see it,” Smith said.

The Fire Scout has been conducting training missions off the coast of California on board LCS 1, the USS Freedom.  Having a small helicopter detachment able to launch and land off the back of the LCS is a key part of the ships’ strategy for surface warfare, countermine warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

Called HSM-35 for helicopter maritime strike squadron, the helicopter detachment on board the LCS consists of an MH-60R helicopter and the MQ 8B Fire Scout UAS working in tandem to identify and destroy targets.

“The helicopter squadron will be able to provide a persistent over-watch for shipping traffic. The H-60 provided initial surveillance and situational awareness. After they found something, the Fire Scout was able to provide that persistent surveillance capability to the ship and to the squadron,” Smith said.

The helicopter and unmanned aircraft system, working with one another, are designed to extend the range of the shallow-water LCS. They provide ISR, targeting and threat-detection technologies miles away from the ship and its crew, using a data link to send information back to a control station on-board the ship.

The training exercises consisted of launches, recoveries, mock firefighting scenarios and visit board search and seizure operations, Smith explained.

The 31-foot long Fire Scout can fly at airspeeds up to 110 knots and reach altitudes of 20,000 feet; the aircraft weighs 3,150 pounds at its maximum take-off weight and is powered by one Rolls-Royce heavy fuel turboshaft engine, Navy officials said.

“The Fire Scout has an electro-optical/ infrared sensor called Bright Star 2, which has laser range-finding and laser designation,” Smith said.

The MQ-8B Fire Scout can stay up on a mission for up to five hours, Smith added.

Fire Scout also uses Automatic Identification System, or AIS, technology to help locate and identify ships, Smith said.

The Navy currently has 21 MQ-8B Fire Scouts in the inventory, service officials said.

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PolicyWonk June 10, 2014 at 5:19 pm

For the current versions of LCS (i.e. the part of the program thats being cancelled too late), here's hoping the Fire Scouts work out well. After all, the geniuses determining the armament required by LCS have always pointed out that LCS OTH attack capability comes from the choppers it carries.

Which doesn't inspire confidence in either the LCS, or in those who determined what armaments LCS should have.

That said, even though LCS (in its current incarnations) didn't work out, a chopper-based drone that's well armed could prove useful.

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blight_ June 11, 2014 at 10:04 am

Wonder if JHSV-1 could be used as a floating helibase for armed fire scouts.

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FormerDirtDart June 12, 2014 at 11:56 am

JHSVs do not have hangers. And, if you're thinking of using the vehicle deck as a makeshift hanger, I'm not sure if the telescoping boom crane can reach the flight deck.

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andy June 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm

Why not convert blackhawk to unman?

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JohnB June 10, 2014 at 11:14 pm

Because the Navy doesn't have a requirement for 12+ hours endurance medium-lift. Even if they had, it's by no means certain that an unmanned UH-60 would fullfill the requirement, particularly within the operational constraints of a medium size surface vessel. Combining lift and endurance on a rotary-wing platform isn't trivial, and brings other trade-offs. The Navy has other ways of performing the lift mission, for instance CH-53 and MH-60.

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blight_ June 14, 2014 at 10:29 pm
rtsy June 11, 2014 at 12:32 am

Kinda surprised the Navy has so few of these.

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Juramentado June 12, 2014 at 10:34 am

The Navy has so few because of the little publicized fact – the MQ-8B fleet will be run to attrition. In other words, they will fly them until they cannot be fixed or are lost to operational incidents. There are no more acquisitions of the B model, primarily because adding the weapons and radar pretty much maxed out the payload margin available. The C-model is the future, with a much larger payload limit and nearly 3x the endurance. However Sequester still gets a vote and the acquisitions of the C have been sidelined. So the LCS force will have to live with the B. Currently there have been no plans to integrate B on the largest population of combatants curently – the Burke DDGs. The Navy is still moving forward with operationalizing the C models on the destroyers, in anticipation (hope?) that the Sequester will end at some point.

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Curt June 13, 2014 at 1:37 am

The Navy already bought over 20 MQ-8Cs.

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blight_ June 11, 2014 at 12:45 am

Great, a helicopter for the littoral combatant ship to combat littoral combatants!

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Mitch S. June 11, 2014 at 3:43 pm

Oh stop taking things so littorally!

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hibeam June 11, 2014 at 1:13 am

Put about 6 tons of armor on it and then try to drive it through a field of IED's. I can't understand why we slow walk this technology. This is the solution to the IED problem.

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tiger June 11, 2014 at 2:00 am

"Funding. That's what makes your ships go up. I'll tell you something, and you guys too: No bucks, no Buck Rodgers." -Right Stuff 1986

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dave June 11, 2014 at 4:25 am

"helicopter-like"? Since when do you need a crew to be a helicopter? Is the X-47 not an airplane?

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d. kellogg June 11, 2014 at 7:54 am

This part here is still one of the greatest fallacies of the LCS program:

"…the helicopter detachment on board the LCS consists of an MH-60R helicopter and the MQ 8B Fire Scout UAS working in tandem to identify and destroy targets."

These Navy planners seem to have the notion that these aviation assets will have 100% reliability 100% of the time and in all weathers and sea states, and that their crews and maintainers will be sufficiently rested and capable 100% of the time (am not even going to mention the over-reliance on civilian contractor support staff on-hand for new equipment).
For a ship so overly dependent on its rotary winged craft to do so much of its "grunt work", the ships carry too few of both airframes.

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Hunter76 June 11, 2014 at 10:13 am

The poor LCS needs all the help it can get.

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Dave June 11, 2014 at 10:47 am

Didn’t they lose control of one of these a while back and it flew through restricted airspace around D.C.? Now they are arming it? Great what can go wrong. /s

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Steve Jenkinson June 11, 2014 at 4:17 pm

That would be a good point if Obama hasn't deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in history. I know, I know, facts aren't your forte'.

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hibeam June 11, 2014 at 4:42 pm

Obama lies about everything. You didn't notice that? Pay attention dude, your way to gullible.

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ltcjwb June 11, 2014 at 6:48 pm

Well, yes, but under prior administrations, those people were summarily returned to the other side of the border, immediately upon apprehension. They were not submitted to a "deportation" court process, which takes a LOT of time and a whole bunch of money.

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Steve Jenkinson June 13, 2014 at 5:54 pm

Well, write to your congressman and senator and demand they get off their butts on immigration reform, which they keep kicking down the road like a tin can.

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blight_ June 14, 2014 at 9:45 pm

The problem is how America touts its heritage as a "Country of Immigrants". This sends the wrong message that America is immigration friendly. A re-branding is needed to discourage illegal immigration.

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majr0d June 13, 2014 at 11:23 pm

Actually Obama hasn't deported more. His administration counts differently.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/370784/obam

Facts don't seem to be your forte either…

Writing to congressmen really doesn't help either. Congress voted against the Dream Act. Obama enacted it unilaterally. Further he fails to secure the border or enforce existing immigration law. New laws aren't the answer when the President ignores the ones on the books.

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blight_ June 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm

The shift in immigration enforcement (e.g, reprioritizing who they deport) is almost like parts of the DREAM Act. The fact that numerous states are passing their own versions without the federal government attempting to assert multi-state authority based on the intercommerce clause is also interesting.

You would've thought that dismal economic news in the US would have encouraged more people to stay away…

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